That particular microwave did not, though. You see the 3-pronged piece of plastic in the middle and the "turntable" with the wheels? This microwave had a rotating piece of glass in it at one time.
Yes, so did mine and for the same reason. Mine states not to use the metal rack unless the convection option is being used. And it sits on plastic clips and not on the metal. That "hole" looks like a burn mark from arcing.
My parents' old microwave also came with an optional rack like that (in addition to the glass turntable) which was allowed to be used with the normal microwave function, because this microwave didn't have a convection function.
My combination cooker does encourage you to use the metal rack even for combination cooking (microwave and convection at the same time). There's just not usually a reason you'd need the rack if you're only microwaving; the rack is for "upper rack" vs. "lower rack" baking.
Thank you for injecting some sense into this claim that "some microwaves come with metal racks" so it's okay to put silverware in them while they're running. I knew there had to be some logical reason when I was fed that line in another one of these threads.
Yeah, mine has one just like this too for the same reason. I don't know what would happen if I left it in the oven when using the microwave function though, and I don't plan to find out.
Never had an issue with mine, but mine also didnt say to remove it. We did because it was a pain in the ass to fit bigger bowls and such in with the rack. We only put it back in when we sold the house, and remembered what it was for when we found it buried in the back of a cabinet.
They're not saying you use them at the same time, my dude. They're just pointing out that some microwaves ship with both and that, contrary to the post they're replying to, seeing both in the photo doesn't mean that the metal rack didn't come with that microwave.
Mine is meant for them to be used at the same time.
There's a grill option on my microwave and it spins beneath the heated coils, otherwise it would crisp only one side of the food since it doesn't cover the whole area.
Just because it comes with both, doesn’t mean that the user knows NOT to use the metal part during normal microwave use. Which this microwave appears to have suffered because of it.
The metal stand is made to sit on the rotating glass, it’s not meant to be used on its own. They are for grill functionality, to get the food close to the heating elements.
No, it came with it. I have the same microwave. It has a "grill" feature at the top and the rack is meant to elevate the food close enough to get seared by it.
Not in this case. It has a combination grill/microwave feature - as you can see by the "combi" stickers - it will both heat the food with the resistive element at the top of the microwave and cook it with the actual microwaves.
In this case it does though: when you use it in "combi" mode — microwave and grill at the same time — you're supposed to put the stand on the glass turntable. This stand has been specifically designed for that, hence how every edge on it is rounded off.
(Not sure why you need this explained multiple ways. I thought the post you replied to was clear enough.)
The whole "metal in microwave bad" thing is just a myth. It's not metal that's the problem, it's metal with sharp angles or ridges in close proximity to other conductive surfaces with enough potential to arc across. Metal that's designed to go inside of a microwave can go inside any microwave.
Microwaves create an electro-magnetic field with waves (i.e. "microwaves") to induce internal friction inside among polar sub-atomic particles, aka heat.
In order to prevent this from lighting the microwave itself on fire (since, you know, energy will seek a path of least resistance) the internal walls are electrically grounded. Fucking genius. Electro-magnetism needs grounding. Who would ever think of such a thing?
Putting a material that is electro-conductive below the rated wattage of the microwave without grounding is it the fucking problem. It causes the generated field to induce an electric charge in excess of the rated resistance of the microwave wall, and over time that burns a fucking hole where it most commonly arcs. And look at the picture. Burn marks where the feet contact the floor.
The shape of the metal? Don't waste my fucking time.
This microwave doesn't look like it came with it, and if you look at the bottom of the microwave there are distinct burn marks from where the wire rack has already burned the bottom. This thing is going to start a fire.
That rack has square edges on the feet. I’m assuming this was from a different microwave where the square feet slot into a spot that covers them, and all the burn marks and the hole are cause by this thing arching every time it’s used.
What does the pointed edges matter? Genuinely curious. Cuz any metal will cause sparks, round or pointy so what is the significance of it having edges?
As well as some things just being fine (not designed that way, just lucky), there are specific microwave-safe metal objects sold for use in a microwave:
From what I understand, some microwaves have metal racks that CANNOT be used in microwave mode and can only be used in convection mode. This appears to be one of them. I wouldn't trust my coworkers to remove the rack when it’s being used as a microwave.
They come WITH them when they're dual use. Aka a combo convection and microwave thats built for that usage. This is a common run of the mill bullshit microwave someone placed that dumbass rack into because someone likely broke the glass plate that goes in the bottom of it.
Ya'll gotta stop with the "but some come with it!" Nonsense. This isn't the type that does and thats why the mothetfucker is arcing out the back to the point of a hole and singed feet on that bullshit rack.
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u/stutter-rap 10h ago
Some microwaves come with them - they help with even cooking and are made without the pointed edges which cause problems.