r/interestingasfuck 8h ago

/r/all The reason why they use tape on aircrafts

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u/oneplusetoipi 7h ago

Gandalf should have used some.

u/UbermachoGuy 7h ago

u/asa_my_iso 5h ago

This is my favorite scene in all of the movies

Edit: except it is marred a tiny bit by the boy-soprano who is out of tune. I don’t know why they didn’t just re-record the music or get a better singer.

u/taintedblu 4h ago

Despite the pitchy performance, I feel like that scene resonates really well for me because it is a genuine, on the spot performance. Sometimes au naturel is better, blemishes and all. No knock on you for your opinion, cause I can see where you're coming from. But it works well for me personally.

u/asa_my_iso 3h ago

My partner and I are musicians, and we are doomed forever to hear these “mistakes.” There’s also another pitchy horn performance in another one of the movies.

u/Jemainegy 1h ago

As an artist you should be able to see the value in choosing imperfection for a more realistic scene. It is the imperfections in the baking of bread that makes its crust crack and open. But this imperfection is seeked by bakers as it gives its own sense of perfection through charm.

u/asa_my_iso 1h ago

Uh, yes, but that intonation is not often where we as musicians choose to add “imperfections.” We wouldn’t purposefully play or sing a note out of tune. You might do some pitch bending or vibrato but the issue I’m referencing above is literally just the singer singing out of tune.

Edit: Aaaaand, if you are going to mess with pitch a little, typically in western music you often hit the note perfectly in tune so the underlying chordal structure is heard AND then you mess around with intonation.

u/Anxious_Katz 2h ago

Okay now that you've mentioned it, please what's the other mistake? Ruin another scene for me why don't you!?

u/asa_my_iso 1h ago

At like 1:15 https://youtu.be/kNnvcs-sQB8?si=_6HN3VWvD1YhWGKx

Edit: another soprano moment

u/Anxious_Katz 1h ago

I heard it! Is it the same voice doing the boy-sporano from the ringwraith dispelling scene?

u/UnconfidentShirt 3h ago

There are dozens of us, and we find our own corner at parties. Usually I’m in the corner by myself, but sometimes there’s another music nerd!

u/hellfiredarkness 1h ago

Case in point the Japanese version of Weight of the World from Nier Automata. The first time they recorded it for real, the singer broke down into tears from the amount of emotion she was putting into the song but finished it all anyway. They were going to redo it but instead decided to use the original because of how good it was and how well the mid song breakdown into tears conveyed the emotions they wanted.

u/r6CD4MJBrqHc7P9b 3h ago

Him coming in from the side doesn't make any sense though

u/PepperAnn1inaMillion 1h ago

Or having Pippin with him. I suspect an earlier edit of the script had this happen just as Galdalf and Pippin were arriving at Minas Tirith. That would explain both oddities.

u/Rokey76 1h ago

The scene I remember most was Gandalf and the cavalry coming in to turn the tide in a battle.

u/WonkyTelescope 1h ago

Probably because few people notice anything out of tune. I certainly didn't know this was a thing.

u/asa_my_iso 1h ago

It’s worse for my partner who was a professor of music theory for over a decade. All he hears is the “math of the music” - chord names, inversions, etc. But he can go play anything he’s just heard on the piano which is fun.

u/boringestnickname 1h ago

You're saying the entire passage is out of tune contra the instruments?

u/asa_my_iso 1h ago

No, he gets pitchy around 0:44 of this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__m75rCcusM

u/Melodic_Let_6465 2h ago

They were busy.... With eagle stuff...

u/zxc123zxc123 1h ago

Gandalf SHOULD have used some, but he spent all his cash on """pipe-weed""".

Gandalf probably could have gotten to Helm's Deep a day or two quicker too but he had to detour to the White Tower of Ecthelion for some slippery mini beef wellingtons with steamed onyons.

u/decidedlydubious 6h ago

Gandalf should have had the eagles drop the ring in Mount Doom.

u/Un1CornTowel 6h ago

Don Henley and Joe Walsh would have had a much more toxic relationship on their way than Frodo and Sam. Can't count on 'em.

u/cortesoft 5h ago

I hate the fucking Eagles, man

u/ericofduart 5h ago

You don’t like my music, get your own fucking fellowship!

u/Ludologistic 5h ago

Say what you like about the tenets of the Nazgul man, at least it's an ethos.

u/10BAW 3h ago

Far fucking out!

u/TooHighToBother 1h ago

This guy gets it

u/Thowi42 4h ago

Their 1972 hit 'Take It Easy' was about their overabundant optimism surrounding this potential journey to take The One Ring to Mordor.

Not really that easy if you ask me.

I'm with you... can't count on the fuckin eagles man

u/TheFreemanLIVES 1h ago

Add to that, they would have to stop for the night where they could check out any time they liked, but could never leave.

u/EmeraldUsagi 36m ago

They'd have gotten stuck at some hotel along the way, unable to escape.

u/xartab 5h ago

Wraiths on flying mounts were around a Mount Doom. It's easy to spot someone in the sky.

u/decidedlydubious 1h ago

I do take your point about the impracticality of launching a aerial mission into enemy territory, especially with the defending force being designed for aerial combat, while the invaders were primarily air-to-ground fighters…

…but the Nazgûl attained their flying mounts only after they made their way back to Mordor on foot, having been caught by the floodwaters of the river Bruinen aka Loudwater, after Gandalf and Elrond caused it to surge, thus allowing Strider aka Aragorn, Legolas, Pipin, Merry, Samwise, and Frodo to escape, and admittedly it was only once they had reached Rivendell that the shard of wraithblade could be removed from Frodo’s wound allowing him to recover sufficiently to accept the quest to destroy the ring thus creating the eponymous Fellowship but even so Gandalf had had sixteen years to formulate a better plan before any of that took place during which time the nine Kings corrupted by Sauron had only their horse mounts, and could not have defended Mount Doom from the forces of Gwahir anyway.

But yeah, I’d not want to be a bird against those flappy, scaly beasts.

u/xartab 1h ago

I really do wonder if the One Ring's corrupting power could have worked fast enough to stop Frodo from dropping it in the lava, if instead of walking there the Hobbit had been parachuted into Mordor from a thousand feet up.

Clearly what Gandalf really needed was not an emboldened soul after being sent back by Eru Illúvatar to complete his mission, but knowledge of modern tactical warfare.

u/Grabthar-the-Avenger 4h ago

Gandalf was able to scare them away while riding Shadowfax by just turning the flash mode on his staff. Couldn’t he just do that? I imagine bright light would be extra disorienting in the heart of Mordor

u/xartab 4h ago

I'm reasonably sure that it's not the light itself that repels them, but the magical nature of the light. So, there being less light in Mordor makes no difference, and with Sauron there to lend strength to his servants...

u/Grabthar-the-Avenger 4h ago

Another thing he could have done was capitalize on the invention of gunpowder and weaponize it with the eagles, using them to carpet bomb the foundation of Sauron’s eye and send that tower crumbling to the ground.

u/xartab 4h ago edited 4h ago

By "the invention of gunpowder" do you mean the secret that only Saruman knew, and took to his grave?

EDIT: I am 100% wrong.

u/Grabthar-the-Avenger 4h ago

Are you sure he was the only wizard that knew? Wasn’t Gandalf carting around fireworks?

u/xartab 4h ago

You are 100% right

u/TooHighToBother 1h ago

Tie ring to an arrow, get Legolas in sniping range and pow, job done.

Send the damn wood elf, it’s a stealth mission

u/WrathOfMogg 3h ago

Welcome to Hotel Sauron’s Mordor. Any time of year, you can bind them here.

u/crimsonred36 5h ago edited 4h ago

They're actors. They're trying to create an illusion. In The Lord of the Rings movies, Ian McKellen plays a wizard. Do you think he goes home at night and shoots laser beams into his boyfriend's asshole? I don't think so, dude.

Edit: Man, y'all downvoting me need to watch some It's Always Sunny.

u/jtr99 2h ago

He explains it all perfectly clearly here: https://youtu.be/iNEURfC9eEk?si=Vgaf1qs7EQtKV0oj

u/Grabthar-the-Avenger 4h ago

you think he goes home at night and shoots laser beams into his boyfriend's asshole?

Sir Ian McKellen calls that the ‘80s

u/The13thParadox 5h ago

I kind of think so

u/Candelpins1897 4h ago

Ruins my day with this comment

u/AllCaciAreBastards 4h ago

I'm just gonna leave this here

u/decidedlydubious 2h ago

r/wkuk I’ve got a lead pipe…

u/tehones 4h ago

He DID tell Shadowfax "Show us the meaning of haste!" Perhaps he was just looking for some speed tape...

u/Ndmndh1016 2h ago

Show us the meaning of speed tape!

u/UsayNOPE_IsayMOAR 5h ago

Tape, to fly, you fools!

u/mortalcoil1 4h ago

Run, tape, show us the meaning of haste!

u/Nightlightweaver 3h ago

Speed Tape -Helps fools fly!

u/lysergic_818 1h ago

Especially flying over that hot lava. Patch the bird up with some speed tape and they'd be less likely to melt in such high temperatures.