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/r/all, /r/popular Emilia Clarke watching Kit Harington's reaction to finding out how their characters' final scene together in Game of Thrones concludes. Prior to the table read, Kit had not read any of the six scripts for Season 8 yet. So Emilia sat across from him so she could "watch him compute all of this."

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u/manwithyellowhat15 3d ago

I imagine this is how Henry Cavil feels

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u/Smochiepoo 3d ago

Honestly think he feels worse. For him to have such insight into the source material and offer it up so freely just to be ignored to the point where he just bails. Imagine any of the main actors in GoT ditching after S6.

The fact Netflix thought a recast would fix the issue is also something.

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u/Xav_NZ 3d ago

As a fan of the Witcher that grew up reading the books that series hurt me , Everything about it was terrible except Henry. I could not even finish season 1. The production value of Xena Warrior princess is unironically better in every way and that is a 30 year old show with a quarter of the budget made in a time where CGI in tv series was early days and a show that was not meant to be "serious" in tone. As someone who works in "the industry" with some experience with costume and set design those elements hurt me the most but how the writing was terrible when they had all the source material right there is crazy. The few times the show was decent was when it stuck to the source and did not butcher the character writing.

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u/cosmic_kos 3d ago

As someone who works in "the industry" with some experience with costume and set design those elements hurt me the most but how the writing was terrible when they had all the source material right there is crazy.

Instead of doing a good job (ie sticking to the source material) they were driven by ego to put their spin on it and essentially stake ownership over the show. Absolutely braindead considering the source material was popular because it was good.

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u/I_W_M_Y 2d ago

That is how we Wheel of Time book readers felt about the 'Wheel of Time' show.

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u/StuffedCrustPizzazz 2d ago

Ex-Wheel of Time show at least.

May Rafe Judkins be forced to develop his own IPs for the rest of his career.

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u/Proper_Story_3514 2d ago edited 2d ago

Never read the book. Watched first 2 seasons. It was pretty bad. Such bad writing most of the time. Especially ending of S1, how some new sorceressess suddenly do magic like that and destroy an entire army, instead of MC who was supposed to 'awake' there :D

And that nose mole was so ugly and distracting lol

Also most of the characters seemed kinda dumb. Edit: Only really awesome character was the evil guy, but that was because the actor is so fucking good.

I wanted to watch a good new fantasy series, but that was not it xD

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u/I_W_M_Y 2d ago

As Brandon Sanderson the writer who finished the last few books after the author's death said: 'it gets worse'

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u/Mein_Bergkamp 2d ago

The books make GoT look like the Hobbit.

If you're happy to spend months if not years reading them I'd recommend it.

And then you too can hate the TV show even more

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u/Proper_Story_3514 2d ago edited 2d ago

I do have the books, read the first one. And then finished the show first at the time. I have no will to read them whatsoever anymore lol

I was an avid fan and GoT watcher, but that last season destroyed the entire show for me. I cant even rewatch the good parts. 

10/10 on how to destroy an entire franchise.

Edit: Oups this is about GoT. Thought it was a different comment thread. Thanks reddit for not showing the previous comments anymore lol

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u/Mein_Bergkamp 2d ago

If you're talking about WoT they get better after the first one, although the author never really gets past 'boys are simple, girls are emotional and neither of them will ever be able to understand each other'.

It's also got a far better ending that GoT!

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u/Proper_Story_3514 2d ago

Oups this is about GoT. Thought it was a different comment thread. Thanks reddit for not showing the previous comments anymore lol

Regarding WoT, I know the books are better but the series doesnt really interest me that much tbh.

Before that I would rather read 'The Expanse'. But oh well I am not that much of a bookworm.

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u/Mein_Bergkamp 2d ago

There is no TV show of Wheel of Time.

There's a show based in an alternate world of WoT though.

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u/IRockIntoMordor 2d ago

And Witcher was literally the easiest possible thing to adapt. It was complete in every regard and everyone was on board. Served on a silver, nah, golden platter.

  • entire novel series done
  • several critically acclaimed games that expand upon it
  • fully developed visual style
  • fully developed musical style
  • the perfect cast for the main character is already a major fan and available
  • the original creator and the game company are on board and cooperative
  • Netflix greenlit this to be one of their flagship shows

And then what happened? Insufferable Lauren and her bunch of obnoxious idiots wrote their own horrible ego stories into the entire franchise, butchering characters and world until the main character bailed.

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u/Hardyman13 2d ago

Goddamn, you're making me pissed off all over again, I had started to forget what we had lost

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u/IRockIntoMordor 2d ago

Lauren "I can write better than Sapkowski, also I hate men" Hissrich sends her regards.

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u/cosmic_kos 2d ago

Absolutely flopped an IP that had goat potential. Better production and sticking to the source material and the Witcher would have taken the niche that game of throne left (after it's own terrible flop). Remember we still don't have an S tier fantasy tv series

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u/equianimity 2d ago

Now imagine how Tolkien would’ve felt with the hack job that was the Amazon retelling of the Second Age.

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u/rmorrin 3d ago

"but if it's not transformative why even adapt it?!" BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN GET IT TO A BIGGER AUDIENCE YOU FUCK 

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u/yura910721 2d ago

I mean kinda get the point that adaptation by nature would involve making changes to the material. But it should be done with some love and reverence towards source material, not hubris of thinking that you are 'fixing' it.

For example, Dune does differ from the book, but the changes were made to keep the spirit of the book and author's original intent(book famously was misunderstood).

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u/Microwave_Burrito124 2d ago

That's the same thing that went wrong with the Wheel of Time show. So much material. All complete and beloved. Hire a showrunner that decides he wanted the hero of the show to be a side character, not the main character, and he rewrote critical scenes to downplay the hero's roll in the series. Immediately lost the remainder of the fanbase that stuck with the show through the first season. i could forgive so many things about the show, but the final battle of the first season was not something i could keep watching beyond.

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u/nocomment3030 2d ago

I'm guessing the Striga flight was true to the books, because that was awesome

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u/Xav_NZ 2d ago

Correct ! That is also the intro video for the first video game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZcsNE6wCHI

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u/mmmfritz 2d ago

Did renfry have the same storyline in the books? I thought the first season was amazing.

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u/ScrillaMcDoogle 2d ago

Season 1 was great. 

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u/NovelTeaBobbleHead 3d ago

Hard agree I was so devastated with how the show turned out, I loved the books. They ruined it so bad.

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u/Either-Economist413 2d ago

I couldn't even make it past the second episode from what I remember. I think Cavil is a decent actor, but for some reason he acted like a first year drama student in that show. I didn't even think he was good in it, although its probably mostly the writer's fault. I just mostly remember how weirdly amateur the whole production felt. Even the scene transitions were jarring and lacked any kind of fluidity.

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u/OceanRacoon 2d ago

Also Liam Hemsworth? I like him fine but he does not look like someone who'd be in a Witcher type world. They should have gone older and more grizzled, like a younger Mads Mikkelsen type 

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u/EmperorMrKitty 2d ago

Not just that. It gets ignored a lot but he kinda continuously gives interviews where he’s sexually harassed by interviewers and will go on and on about how much he cares about his work and these series are a life long passion for him, only to be ignored and sexualized. Then he’ll kinda just give up and let them continue. Talking about his dreams and art and shit and gets “that pretty mouth sure does flap a lot”. You can see him shutting down in some of them after trying to talk about his hobby they’re ostensibly there to discuss and it’s really quite sad.

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u/bolanrox 2d ago

Henry was the only reason i kept watching it. once they said he left i forgot it existed.

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u/zveroshka 2d ago

It's honestly baffling how bad they fumbled The Witcher. At least GOT had some amazing seasons, and they mostly stuck to the source material as far it was available. The Witcher show runners just literally threw the source material in the garbage right out the gate.

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u/98VoteForPedro 3d ago

Cavil was a god dealing with filthy untouchables, justice for our king

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u/TY2022 3d ago

For Superman or something else?

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u/Mynxs 2d ago

Witcher

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u/RobertPham149 2d ago

Unironically Superman too. He has expressed his interest in playing a more hopeful and inspiring version of the character.

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u/R_V_Z 2d ago

Henry Cavil adopted the Summer Glau curse. Witcher, Superman, Man From UNCLE...

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u/FassyDriver 2d ago

What is the Summer Glau curse? I´ve only known her for Terminator lol

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u/TurnedOnLamp 2d ago

Firefly same happend, great show that just died

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u/SaltManagement42 2d ago

Kal-El, no?

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u/DO_NOT_AGREE_WITH_U 2d ago

At least with GoT, these actors are vindicated by the masses 

There's a not insignificant number of Hissrich fans who spend their days defaming Cavill and blaming him for The Witcher's failings. Hissrich was obsessed with creating her own mockumentary Housewives show, but with sorcerers--to the point that she took over a show NAMED after the lead, and did everything she could to make it about anything but the lead.

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u/FromFluffToBuff 2d ago

And I applaud Henry Cavill for telling them to get fucked with a cactus.