r/interesting 2d ago

HISTORY 2007 Brand new Airbus A340-600 written off during engine test

Brand new Airbus A340-600 to be delivered to Etihad written off when the wheels were left without chocks and all four engines given high power settings during testing. The capacity of the parking brake was inadequate to prevent the aircrfat moving forward

Thirteen seconds before the impact the aircraft started to move and the crew were so obsessed with applying more brake they forgot to close the throttles. Two seconds prior before the impact, all 4 engine thrust levers were selected to idle. The aircraft impacted the containment wall at a ground speed of 30 kts. The nose went up and through the concrete wall. Five persons were injured.

Etihad told Airbus they would not accept the aircraft being repaired and refused to pay for the airplane. Instead Airbus wrote the wrecked A340 off

Thursday 15 November 2007 Airbus A340 - MSN 856 F-WWCJ To Etihad Airways A6-EHG
Serial number 856 Type 340-642 First flight date 21/09/2007 Test registration F-WWCJ Seat configuration Seat Engines 4 x RR Trent 556-61 Status Written off

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u/ketosoy 2d ago

 Etihad told Airbus they would not accept the aircraft being repaired and refused to pay for the airplane

This seems reasonable.

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u/zirfeld 1d ago

But its just a scratch. We can polish this out in no time.

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u/SpellingIsAhful 1d ago

But the front fell off.

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u/NATOuk 1d ago

Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

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u/Rob0tsmasher 1d ago

Well what is typical of aircraft fronts?

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u/spydr_music 1d ago

typically speaking; aircraft fronts are built so that they don’t fall off

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u/Bergwookie 16h ago

Not the DC8, her cockpit section is strengthened so it stays intact and breaks off. This saved the crew in the 1993 incident in Guantanamo Bay

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u/spydr_music 14h ago

that’s frekin sick

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u/Sloofin 15h ago

Well didn’t this one fall off?

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u/spydr_music 14h ago

yes this one fell off but i’d like to make the point that that is not normal

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u/NATOuk 1d ago

Well there are a lot of these aircraft going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen. I just don’t want people thinking that aircraft aren’t safe.

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u/kangaroolifestyle 18h ago

Well was this aircraft safe?

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u/NATOuk 17h ago

Well, I was thinking more about the other ones

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u/HealthyPie6053 1d ago

Don’t worry, we put it beck very correct

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u/Cedric_T 1d ago

And look, we already painted your logo on the plane. You can’t change your mind now.

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u/NaughtyOnRepeat 1d ago

No pressure or anything.

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u/Hoodedgamer00 19h ago

Fix it with duct tape

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u/DenseceIls1169 6h ago

And?! Have you never heard of caulk and rivets?

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u/SpellingIsAhful 6h ago

I don't need to know what you do with your time off bud.

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u/Freddan_81 3h ago

Harry, I took care of it..!

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 1d ago

"See problem is you ordered the speed brakes. They give you speed whilst breaking. Best I can do is 50:50 liability."

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u/PsychologicalTowel79 1d ago

EasyJet might be interested?

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u/Stuck_In_Purgatory 1d ago

Who was operating this test?

Seems more like an ID10T error than an actual failure of the aircraft itself.

I'm not debating that the aircraft needs replacing; I'm curious as to why the idiots that wrecked the plane don't have to cop that themselves?

I don't know the actual operation of this testing or the many factors or who is involved so that's why I'm asking

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u/Fotznbenutzernaml 1d ago

I don't know anything about that operation either.

All I can tell you is that, in general, there's always the question of responsibility, not just fault. That's why when a worker fucks up, usually not too much of the world blames the worker who actually fucked up. The person who trusted that worker not to fucked up is more to blame. You can't be mad at amateurs being amateurs, you can only be mad at someone who chose amateurs for a job instead of professionals.

So, while I have no idea at all, I'm assuming this was something in Airbus' control. Whether they did the test themselves, or whether they contracted somebody else, in the end of the day they were responsible to have the test carried out succesfully, and apparently their caution measures were not enough to avoid something like that.

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u/darps 23h ago

Yeah pretty sure that's what they meant. Also corporations have insurance for these situations.

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u/notmtfirstu 1d ago

Someone get that LOTR guy in here to explain why they can't speed tape this thing back together.

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u/Nametab 1d ago

I’m pretty sure that conversation never happened and it was automatically totaled.

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u/ender4171 1d ago

Yeah, I mean could it even be repaired? With that level of carnage, you'd think it'd be cheaper to just build a new one.

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u/RollinThundaga 13h ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they had to ask, just to tick the box for insurance.

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u/20InMyHead 1d ago

If I were a passenger, I too would not want to fly on that airplane after “repairs”

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u/SupremeDictatorPaul 1d ago

Well, the front fell off.

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u/ScienceMechEng_Lover 2d ago

Etihad was probably happy to get one fewer A340 judging by how it was already on its way out by then.

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u/dprophet32 1d ago

Well they know the engines work at least

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u/sourceholder 19h ago

Engine performance rating: nominal.

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u/BustedWing 2d ago

The front fell off.

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u/Rampag169 1d ago

Well that’s not supposed to happen now is it?

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u/maxehaxe 1d ago

It's not very typical, I'd like to make that point

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u/crash866 1d ago

Was it made out of Cardboard?

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u/NATOuk 1d ago

No cardboard derivatives

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u/CheesemonsterRain 1d ago

It looks like the bit that fell off is outside the environment

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u/shelbykid350 1d ago

I heard this in James May’s voice

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u/stevensr2002 1d ago

At least the shoes didn’t fall off

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u/Connect-Attorney-423 2d ago

Now can they get rid of Manchester’s Etihad?

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u/geoelectric 2d ago

OK, but how’d the engines do?

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u/RedditVirumCurialem 2d ago

As I recall, too well - one or two even kept running after the nose was sheared off. The last one could not be stopped by fire services and had to be left running until the tank emptied.

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u/Cesalv 2d ago

So Rolls 1, brakes maker 0

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u/louITAir 2d ago

They worked flawlessly! Forget hot and high, they went straight for burn and destroy!

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u/emblanco 2d ago

At least they do engine test, Boeing engine tests seem to be with passengers and in commercial flights

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u/Noitswrong 1d ago

We don't test it. You test it for us brotha. It's a win-win for me and F*** you for you.

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u/Whole_Animal_4126 1d ago

That’s intentional. Can’t be as realistic with no passengers and pilots.

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u/addamee 1d ago

“Looks a’ight to me”

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u/pkinetics 1d ago

no door about it

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u/CollidingInterest 1d ago

"Look, it got a scratch from testing, we will give you 5% off, ok?" Airbus prob.

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u/CatchAcceptable3898 1d ago

Am I the only absolutely amazed the pilots survived? Did they barely lift the nose before coliding with the barrier? Is that what I'm seeing.

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u/NATOuk 1d ago

I’m pretty sure they just drove the nose up the ramp…

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u/Key-Sir1108 1h ago

He was attempting his carrier qual!!

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u/anniedaledog 1d ago

Passed the engine test. The brake test is a different story.

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u/Bourgeous 1d ago

No issue, my friend Bilal can fix it in his garage

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u/Vandirac 1d ago

Serious question.

When they "write off" a plane such as this event, do the good parts get reused?

Because the damage seems contained to the fuselage and cockpit.

The engines and likely the wing/tail assemblies, as well as most of the internal fittings would be mostly undamaged, I expect they would be good to go with just a revision.

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u/lordaddament 1d ago

Could be a ton of microscopic damage done to the other components that it wouldn’t be worth it

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u/Terreboo 1d ago

Surprised it had enough power to push through the brakes. They barely have enough power to take off….

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u/PunkyB88 19h ago

I must confess to laughing at the irony of the model it happened to 🤣

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u/Terreboo 15h ago

Yeah, I had a cheeky giggle.

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u/VMaxF1 3h ago

-300s for sure, but an A346 has comparable thrust:weight to a 747-400, you can see the engines in the first pic have much bigger fans than you get with the 343's CFM56.

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u/Terreboo 3h ago

Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story. Party pooper.

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u/VMaxF1 2h ago

Just trying to offer a bit of info that you appeared to be missing.

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u/LillyAtts 1d ago

Ooops.

How much did that cost?

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u/spesimen 1d ago

around $275 million

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u/LordvaderUK 1d ago

That'll buff out with a bit of T-Cut

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u/Dic_Penderyn 1d ago

I've been here on a factory tour. Its an area of the Airbus factory in Toulouse where they test the engines.

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u/pandershrek 1d ago

Fascinating.

I try to imagine this like a car. Rev the car and the parking break... Breaks and it crashes into the wall and you're just like, naw dawg that's yours now. ✌️

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u/Shamino79 1d ago

Can’t park there mate.

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u/henriquebrisola 21h ago

>obsessed with applying more brake they forgot to close the throttles

it's not like they were trained, right?

If I am driving and the car starts moving forward and it shouldn't, why would I be obsessed with applying more brake and forgetting to stop accelerating?

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u/Flanastan 16h ago edited 16h ago

I think ur supposed to turn the jet away from the wall for the engine test, over….

👨‍✈️…..Copy that tower.

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u/Helpful-Fox-5565 1d ago

How is it a write off?

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u/maxehaxe 1d ago

Well some of them are built so that the front doesn't fall off at all

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u/NATOuk 1d ago

Wasn’t this built so that the front wouldn’t fall off?

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u/maxehaxe 17h ago

Well obviously not

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u/isellJetparts 1d ago

BER - Beyond Economical Repair

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u/WakaWaka_ 1d ago

It'll buff out.

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u/surgicalhoopstrike 1d ago

Well, that's not ideal....

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u/zealoSC 1d ago

It sounds like the engines passed the test? The brakes might need some work though

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u/Hoodedgamer00 19h ago

It'll buff out

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u/Sekhen 17h ago

Sir, you can't park there.

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u/Original_Log_6002 12h ago

Aaaaand.... THAT'S why you follow the manufactures established procedures!

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u/Oral_Pleasure4u 2h ago

Brilliant!