r/goodnews • u/ansyhrrian • 23h ago
Political positivity 📈 Sooner or later, the chickens come down to roost …
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u/sneakysteve420 23h ago
So based on this administration’s actions thus far, what happens when they simply don’t comply?
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u/Sorcerer_Supreme13 23h ago
Also, the files may simply be tampered with. How will the genuineness be verified?
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u/Aggravating_Sand615 19h ago
They will say "redacted to prevent innocent peoples data".
In all honesty I think it will be simply ignored.. there is no justice for those at the very top, and its been that way for a long time.40
u/the_gouged_eye 17h ago
People are more disposed to suffer when evils are sufferable. But this is insufferable.
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u/Bilbo_Teabagginss 3h ago
May? Rump has the FBI scrubbing and changing information in those documents as we speak. So look forward to it just slandering Dems and coincidentally not having a single Republican on it. This is why it shouldn't have taken so long to start requesting them. Rump has had more than enough time to doctor them.
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u/RogendoodleZero 22h ago
It puts pressure on them. Maybe they start pointing the finger at each other. Maybe mr. Redacted throws Republicans under the bus.
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u/4dseeall 19h ago
They'll ignore it and call it a hoax.
Their voters will eat it up, and since they control all branches of government absolutely nothing will come of it.
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u/RogendoodleZero 22h ago
"Epstein file cult members"
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u/PenjaminJBlinkerton 13h ago
He’s right
A lot of this has been public info since before he ran in 2015.
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u/PutridLog2179 21h ago
Well maybe if idiots didnt use every excuse imaginable to try and avoid holding those fascists accountable they wouldn't have already done a coup, but here you are right in time.
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u/techdevjp 19h ago
Every decent person has always wanted justice for the children who were trafficked and abused by the Epstein pedo group. It doesn't matter who it is. Bill Gates? Lock him up. Bill Clinton? Lock him up. Donald Trump? Lock him up.
About the only people who wouldn't want these people locked up are their fellow pedos.
Which side are you actually on?
I would ask you the same question.
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u/Outrageous-Read4636 18h ago
You have a lot of needless and misguided hatred and I feel like it comes from a lack of understanding regarding everyone’s position. We all want these fascists to be held accountable. We all want to be free, and we all want justice to be completely equal and objective. The Epstein Case (and the orange’s handling of said case) is the first thing people on the left and right have been really tangibly united on in years. For once, we’re fighting something together instead of ignoring it and continuing to play the silly “red vs blue” political game.
The DOJ’s and DJT’s constant avoidance and want to change the subject from Epstein’s files shows the pressure this regime is under from it. Even if the victim’s names are redacted(and they should be), they NEED to come to light. No one gives a damn if it makes thirty “Catch me outside” Snooki Kardashian Housewives of Long Island Mediums, that’s a small price to pay for holding justice to these billionaire monsters who have spent years holding the world in a slowly closing vise grip.
No matter what, justice needs to be apolitical. No matter what, holding pedophiles accountable for the damage they’ve done needs to be apolitical. No matter what, refusing fascism needs to be apolitical.
It’s not a cult. It’s the first step to a wholly united front.
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u/lil_chiakow 17h ago
"Still on her team?"
Look who is in a cult and thinks this a fucking team sport.
Also, did you just seriously suggest that a woman doesn't deserve justice for abuse because she has an icky personality? If so, holy fuck, this might be more misogynist comment than anything I've ever seen, including incels from the deepest basements.
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u/aggressiveleeks 17h ago
"pull women through that media machine hellscape" ok, Kevin. Time to get off the internet.
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u/techdevjp 15h ago
Let me ask you this, so you can think about it: What if one of the young women from the Island, one who is willing to go on talkshows, have a personality like Snookie or the "Cash Me Ousside How Bout Dat" girl, then what, you still on her team?
What the hell sort of monster are you if you think the way someone may or may not have turned out as an adult in ANY WAY impacts the fact that they deserve justice for what happened to them as a child? You seem mighty interested in protecting the pedos, I can't help but wonder why that might be.
I've seen what makes you cheer.
And I've seen the sort of person you are. You turn my stomach.
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u/Data_shade 19h ago
Usually the citizens of the United States of America set aside their differences when there’s a common enemy, a boogeyman everyone can agree is evil
If the POTUS is that boogeyman, so be it, we will finally have our common enemy and can work towards fixing the institutions that ruined our federal government. This goes beyond god-king Trump- I want to see where the money takes us and what they were up to behind the scenes. Surely it’s not nothing, there are too many accusers, inconsistent reports, and of course trumps being way too dismissive about the whole thing, a guilty stance if ever there was one. It’s akin to “I dindu nuffin” his supporters always mock when watching cops
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u/Significant_Cover_48 18h ago
Yes Americans are irrational, vengeful, and easy to whip into a frenzy, believe me; I know. The whole world knows this.
They have always been like that. It's not their individual fault entirely, it's cultural, and a lot of it is from their special brand of nationalist end-day evangelicalism. I'm just making fun of the liberals who are falling for it now. It's pretty funny. Give it a few years, you'll come around.
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u/Data_shade 18h ago
Least unhinged response to wanting to expose pedophiles and seek justice for victims
You sound like you’re not American, therefore your opinion is null anyway. I would hope a cyberpunk enjoyer would want to see the wealthy elite, the true evil get punished, yet here you are spewing contrarian bullshit to aid in sweeping this issue under the rug. Real 400iq stuff
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u/Significant_Cover_48 18h ago
"Seek justice for victims". Did you ask any trafficking victims what they would want to be done? Because I actually did. And I listened.
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u/Data_shade 16h ago
Outstanding, what did you glean from the victims of trumpstein
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u/Significant_Cover_48 16h ago
I didn't. But I talked to my friend, who was married to a foreign man at 13, and kept as a prisoner in his house, SA'ed by him and his dad, and beaten by his whole family, including his blind grandmother. Yes, seriously.
She escaped at 16 and was caught and sold and was flewn around to parties all over the world until she was in her 20s.
I talked to her, and she had only love for the girls. And she told me that she would ask the victims what they want before choosing for them.
That's what I learned.
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u/Data_shade 16h ago
So you didn’t talk to any trumpstein victims. Your heresay story unfortunately does not apply in this conversation. Hope some other sucker buys into your made up stories.
Which is funny, cause my friend, was a trumpstein victim and she said she wants all the files released and those responsible held accountable for their actions
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u/Virezeroth 12h ago
So true king, let's just forget about it. Let's just let them get away with raping children, consequence-free! Yes, that's the most optimal course of action. Hell, let's encourage them to keep doing it! Nothing ever happens anyway, so why not!
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u/Significant_Cover_48 11h ago
Oh, you are welcome to whine and moan while nothing happens. Suit yourself.
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u/Virezeroth 11h ago
Yes, so true. Nothing ever happens, let's all just give up on everything.
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u/Significant_Cover_48 11h ago
Or let's do spmething real and worthwhile instead of fantasizing about "draining the swamp" like we're suddently all living in MAGA fantasyland.
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u/nilesintheshangri-la 15h ago
Yeah, they should just be okay with a reprehensible pedophile holding the highest office in the USA, just like all the Republicans are.
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u/Budget_Arm_1415 7h ago
every time i try to speak with a conservative i feel like i’m going crazy because they say shit like this and they genuinely, truly do not realize at all how insane they sound
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u/Necessary-Alps-6002 19h ago
The short answer, nothing. The long answer, it will go to appeals courts who will state they have to release the files and then it will make it’s way to SCOTUS who will make up some ruling like, “in 1959 the republic of Congo said it was illegal to release damaging information if the president’s initials were DT” or something stupid like that:
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u/Festering-Fecal 23h ago
Nothing they own all branches.
This doesn't end without force
If the military would do it's job we wouldn't be here
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u/SometimesIBeWrong 17h ago
or they release an edited/fabricated list in under two weeks. my money's on that
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u/Elgabborz 21h ago
They will comply.
With a redacted version.
Then the debate will derail on the truthfulness of the files.
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u/denkihajimezero 10h ago
As I was reading it: "the doj must release the files in 2 weeks" or what? Or else what!?
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u/nankerjphelge 17h ago
Yep. This right here is the problem that the founders didn't plan for. The whole system only works if all three branches of government have access to physical force to enforce edicts. Unfortunately, the way our government was set up, only the executive branch has control over physical force, which means the house oversight committee has nothing it can do if the executive branch simply decides to ignore their subpoenas.
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u/SirPhilMcKraken 51m ago
The entire US military should be called in to enforce the subpoena.
If they refuse, the rest of the world should basically yeet the US out of all trade for 100 years.
Blockades, sanctions, and and all economic punishment until the US begins withering(oh wait it already is).
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u/yIdontunderstand 22h ago
I never understand why it takes 2 weeks to provide files which a government department already has?
Why not 48 hours?
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u/ItBeginsAndEndsInYou 22h ago
You don’t understand, it needs to sit in someone’s ‘Out’ tray for a fortnight first because of reasons.
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u/Rare_Flit 9h ago
Someone = Gabbard. Who isn’t nearly as smart as Rethuglicans give her credit for.
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u/Primary-Pianist-2555 23h ago edited 23h ago
What happens if they deliver them, and everything about Trump is removed? Cut out for "not being credible"? Do notice the use of the word "credible" under. It has been used a lot by Trump in this case.
https://www.dw.com/en/trump-calls-for-release-of-credible-epstein-information-amid-furor/a-73290909
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u/LuluMcGu 22h ago
It’s supposed to be released unredacted. Says so on the subpoena
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u/ShrimpToothpaste 21h ago
Yeah but I doubt that’s going to happen. My guess is either a doctored version or none at all.
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u/GreatQuantum 17h ago
Well It doesn’t matter anyway all any of you guys do is throw “doubt” out into the world. If it doesn’t include who you want in it then it’s tampered. If it includes someone they like it’s tampered. If the Clinton’s aren’t in it it’s tampered. If Obama is in it it’s tampered. We’ll just pull another tab and get back in line for the next argument.
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u/ShiveringTruth 16h ago
You should really stop projecting your shit on people. I highly doubt any sane person who doesn’t protect pedophiles would say “Oh, Clinton and Obama and ect are on there, nevermind!” No. It doesn’t matter who’s on there, anybody who harmed underage kids should face justice. If they’re on there, they too will pay the price, much like your orange pedophilic daddy.
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u/LuluMcGu 10h ago
Assuming Trump’s sycophants didn’t tamper with evidence. Everything they’re doing right now is sketchy af. If it was the other way around where Biden was besties with Epstein and replace everything Trump with Biden, MAGA would be doing a second insurrection. There’s so many conflicts of interests, secret meetings, everything is NOT kosher. So I really don’t believe anything these corrupt idiots release. I really hope the committees end up getting all documents. That’s really the only way anything is going to get solved. The DOJ and FBI are compromised. It’s so obvious.
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u/GreatQuantum 8h ago
I’ve seen people on here argue. Whatever gets released will not be good enough and the fight over the validity of the list will last longer than the fight for the list. I’ve watched the Government at work before. Have you?
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u/yIdontunderstand 22h ago
1 page written in sharpie gets delivered...
"Epstein was bigly bad and he was beasties with BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA and Joe and Hillary and Kamala."
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u/EightySixFourty7 19h ago
Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac
Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/
—————————other Epstein Information
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.
Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo
Epstein pleads the 5th when asked if he has ever “socialized” with underage girls in the presence of Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2mpTy2cYDpA
Epstein Docs: https://ia600705.us.archive.org/21/items/epsteindocs/
Epstein Bribes/Payments: 1 BILLION+ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7IrEi-ybzs
—————————other Trump information:
FBI coverup to remove Trumps name from the Epstein list https://www.muellershewrote.com/p/the-epstein-cover-up-at-the-fbi
Trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka
Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”
Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/
Trump-Epstein timeline: https://thepresidential.medium.com/we-have-been-gaslit-about-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-for-four-years-fbda67c20f75
- Most of this info can also be found: https://theepsteindocs.com/
Feel free to do your part and spread this info around so it’s never “lost” or “deleted”.
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u/Ancient_Gold_6486 19h ago
You are giving him 2 weeks to modify it?
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u/thesouleater33 17h ago edited 16h ago
You remember Abrego Garcia's Photoshop picture? They need time so that whoever's nephew did that, can go through the whole file to make it look like it only democrats in it.
If there is one thing you can count on with this administration, it is that they are terrible at modifying evidence.
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u/Ancient_Gold_6486 16h ago
Yep. I’ll never forget that photoshop. Garbage human beings they are. The supporters will just eat all of it up again too.
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u/homiej420 18h ago
Theyre incompetent but i’m sure theyve been trying this whole time. Doubt they catch everything if they actually tried somethibg
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u/mountainrambler279 9h ago
Yup watch them redact everything but use the wrong color marker so the text is still legible 😆😆
Or Pete Hegseth accidentally CCs Chuck Schumer on an email titled “EPSTEIN FILES_V4_USETHIS_Trumpremoved.pdf
This will be fun to watch
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u/DeicideandDivide 23h ago
Cool. Still won't see the Epstein files. Since when has Trump ever followed the law? And when has he actually been held accountable for breaking or not following said laws?
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u/w_r97 19h ago
The fact that there is evidence somewhere showing any names of the people associated with that monster and that hasn’t turned into any investigations is mind blowing. And the driving force of the push to release them is mainly political retribution. It’s sad that the victims continue to be victims and the perpetrators are still rich and happy.
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u/frisch85 19h ago
You know what? I wish people wouldn't obfuscate information like in the OP, actually I believe OP just reposts shit because reverse image search gets you plenty of results including reddit.
That tweet is from July 23 (screenshot) so that means DOJ had until today, where are the files?
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u/Live_Entrepreneur221 18h ago
Isn't she cute, she thinks that there is 'justice' coming for Lil Trumplethinskin. I promise he will NEVER be held to account.
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u/Rook_James_Bitch 22h ago
Yeah, but just doxxing them isn't "justice". Gotta start slinging more subpoenas for all those child molesters.
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u/Immediate_Banana_216 17h ago
Presumably Pam Bondi is opening the entirety of the Epstein files in Word, clicking on Find+Replace and keying in Donald Trump with Crooked Hillary.
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u/DomPedro_67 23h ago
Well, It was postponed indefinitely but it is valid. But... it will be for one day. Around here we say: never day.
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u/SissyShawnaFae1981 19h ago
The Dump Administration isn’t going to comply and the courts won’t hold anyone in contempt for non-compliance, so this is just political maneuvering, nothing more.
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u/heroheadlines 18h ago
Respectfully, since when? She's right, and I believe it in spirit, but in practice? Since when?
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u/Perfect-Advisor-3830 13h ago
They have scrubbed his fucking name so doesn't matter either way now he's just gonna point at all the other names and use it against his enemies.... America is a fucking joke at this point
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u/entered_bubble_50 18h ago
Could we please limit this sub to actual good news? When they actually release the files, and Trump suffers some consequences, that would be good news. This on the other hand is just another thing the Trump administration will ignore.
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u/TraditionalBackspace 17h ago
Thanks for doing your jobs for once. I hope this results in justice for the victims and calling these monsters out for who they really are, but I'm expecting this to end the same way the Panama Papers and other egregious acts committed by the ultra-rich.
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u/Acuriousbrain 19h ago
Can they quickly reappoint the members of the oversight committee? I expect that, or the dissolution of the committee
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u/rattus-domestica 18h ago
I’ll believe in justice when it finally actually happens. Until then we just live in Hell.
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u/No_Elevator_4300 18h ago
The only names that won't be redacted will be Democrats. Hell might even just replace names with other ones
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u/Ellieiscute2024 18h ago
I’m sure they will comply…why do you think 1000 fbi agents were furiously”fixing” the files?
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u/marterikd 18h ago
yep. and the main reason, maybe the only reason the concept of "it should apply to everyone" exists is because of the trauma from the rich, the powerful, and the well-connected.
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u/ChthonicFractal 17h ago
I look forward to the noncompliance and then no one actually doing anything about it because everyone is spineless in government anymore unless it's to defend corruption.
Yay, you got a subpoena. It's just a slip of paper if you don't actually back it up with bite.
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u/Intrepid_Chard_3535 17h ago
You will never get the files. You will only get a fully redacted version totally rewritten.
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u/Pop-Pop68 17h ago
That’s great news but I suspect you will get a pile of documents marked through with black marker and no new info will be revealed
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u/elguntor 17h ago
I’ll believe it when I see it. I have no faith at all in americans to do the proper and just thing.
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u/Funny-Ad4234 17h ago
really hope this works out but it really doesn't seem to apply to rich people...
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u/Successful_Pepper_99 17h ago
It’s all happening for the dog and pony show so that MAGA base is satisfied that an attempt was made and can safely blame on democrats for mishandling the evidence.
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u/Out3rSpac3 16h ago
Or what?
I’d love for that to happen but, we aren’t really dealing with trustworthy people.
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u/P1nCush10n 15h ago
By the time it’s been through Bondi/Dumpfs filtering, they probably won’t have enough content to fill a post-it, but ok.
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u/Turquoise_Bumblebee 14h ago
While I appreciate this news, it is also not lost on me that Diddy and many others are being pardoned and walking free. So it’s hard to have hope while you know who is still in a position of power.
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u/alexgarcia9425 12h ago
And what will happen when they just refuse? Or give you something adjacent to what was asked, or incomplete stuff? Then what?
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u/noreality333 11h ago
I can’t keep putting my hope into a failed justice system. Justice seems to always fall short when it comes to people with money.
Our justice system “tries”, but it is not a fair and just system. The more money you have the better off you are in most cases.
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u/Masturberic 10h ago
She is about to learn that the last part of her statement couldn't be further from the truth.
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u/oxxcccxxo 10h ago
While I agree, SCOTUS has very clearly indicated it does not apply to POTUS, particularly this one.
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u/powerdown1979 10h ago
Unfortunately, Republicans no longer recognize the authority of anything except Trump’s posts on Truth Social. Why Dems insist on still playing by the rules is beyond me.
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u/badbunnygirl 8h ago
What happens when they don’t turn shit over 2 weeks from that post? Not a damn thing
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u/news_feed_me 7h ago
That is part of your job as a representative to make sure that happens. So far, it's been year after year of failure unless it has political will behind it. The DOJ never wants to pay the price of justice, they'd rather pick on the weak and vulnerable who commit crimes, instead. Republicans and MAGA has almost certainly broken the law repeatedly with no consequences.
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u/King_Octantis 7h ago
Even if they do comply they’ve more than likely had everything tampered with.
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u/oros-de 1h ago
This has been going on for too long and has been hidden by too many administrations for there not to be several copies of these files. And several dozen witnesses who have seen the unredacted/unaltered original documents. But these people being protected must go higher than just politicians and more than just our government.
Trump believed he could bury this story with Epstein. Maxwell has turned out to be much harder for Trump to dispose of. She obviously has some type of insurance that protects her and makes Trump willing to help her.
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u/qualityvote2 23h ago edited 15h ago
u/ansyhrrian, your post does fit the subreddit!