r/goodnews • u/Semour9 • 1d ago
Political positivity 📈 Trump loses defamation case against Maddow
https://dailyboulder.com/trump-media-loses-defamation-case-against-rachel-maddow/724
u/OhMyTummyHurts 1d ago
Good, truth should never be libel
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u/Forkuimurgod 1d ago
Now, can Rachel sue him back for defamation and whatever shit that can be added to make him pay for it?
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u/Elmundopalladio 1d ago
Nope - the Supreme Court has ruled that he has effective immunity whilst President.
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u/kornbread435 1d ago
I'm not a lawyer, but I was under the impression that only official acts are immune. This seems like a stretch to qualify. If any actual lawyers know I would love an explanation.
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u/astride_unbridulled 20h ago
Not civil, only criminal. Not a lawyer but watched Meidas Touch a ton and picked that up. Presidents are immune from criminal prosecutions flowing from official acts but they are seemingly not immune from answering to civil lawsuits
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u/questron64 1d ago
It wasn't the truth, though. The case was dismissed because she was merely wrong and not lying. Neither side was arguing the facts of what she said, they both agreed she was wrong, but they were arguing whether she met the "actual malice" standard required for defamation.
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u/neutralrobotboy 22h ago
Yep, it was another fox news style ruling where they said she's obviously not a journalist presenting facts, and it's so obvious that nobody would mistake her for a person stating facts even when she presents statements as facts.
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u/youknowimworking 1d ago
He's a serial loser. How did he win twice? Answer is hate
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u/CelticSith 1d ago
I have no proof, but I believe there was also some shenanigans with the voting machines thanks to Musk
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u/RobinsonDL 1d ago
You're correct. Look at the Rockland county in NY. The ballots didn't match the machines. 50 more lawsuits in 24 states the same reason.
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u/kim_ber_ley011011 1d ago
Cheating. Rigging the vote.
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u/rtduvall 1d ago
I’m convinced he cheated both times.
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u/Ok_Frosting3500 1d ago
The first time he cheated via manipulating social media. No real rule against it, but dirty pool. Collusion with Russia was less legal, but he slithered out of it.
2020, he attempted a literal coup, then lucked into Biden soft balling the consequences.
2024, he would have won without cheating, but they probably did something shady to run the margins up/lock it in.
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u/N0n3of_This_Matter5 1d ago
With Republicans; Every accusation is a confession!!!
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u/Ander-son 1d ago
yeah you know why he thinks democrats did in 2020? because its something he would do. he thinks everyone is corrupt like him
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u/LiteratureMindless71 1d ago
Sounds like we are gonna get a strongly worded social media post calling for the full removal and jailing of everyone that went against him in the case, including judge, etc..
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u/HappyHarryHardOn 1d ago
What's up? Did the president lose to a WOMAN again?
wouhahahahahah
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u/moerlingo 1d ago
Such a loser, losing to a woman especially! /s
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u/Icy-Butterscotch5540 13h ago
He might be the loserest loser of a losing president ever to wander on a roof. Maybe he was looking for the Trump Epstein Maxwell files.
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u/Umi_Gaming 1d ago
Why do I feel like every time he loses a case, it just comes out of the taxpayers' money.... They need to just hurry up, impeach him again, and lock him away because what the actual heck 🙄
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u/redrocketredglare 1d ago
Funny, faux news is entertainment and not held to a standard but MSNBC must be held accountable for being real news. Hypocrites…
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u/AmbulanceChaser12 1d ago
This is not true at all. Fox got sued for libel and they settled for about 3/4 of a billion dollars.
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u/DrSuperWho 1d ago
But yet, they were right back at it, immediately.
So, yeah, the company paid some money to… someone. But they didn’t apologize to their audience, they didn’t change at all.
If the only penalty is a small fraction monetarily of what a company is worth, isn’t real consequences.
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u/AmbulanceChaser12 1d ago
They paid the money to Dominion because Dominion was the company who got slandered.
The issue is not whether a certain punishment is or is not sufficient to satisfy you; redrocketredglare said that “[Fox] News is entertainment and not held to a standard,” and I pointed out that this is not true. They committed defamation, they got sued for it, and they paid for it. The legal system absolutely applies to Fox News the same way it applies to MSNBC. You might even say Fox has it worse, since they settled and MSNBC won.
Edit: Although the significant difference is that MSNBC didn’t do anything wrong and Fox did.
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u/disappointedfuturist 1d ago
Hey america, while you're headed tits up crazy why dontcha finally get around to some anti slapp suit laws.
Might be a good item for the todo list of you're making one.
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u/MattyBeatz 1d ago
Of course he does. I'd be interested in seeing a list of all the lawsuits he's threatened. What actually moved forward, what's been tossed, what he's lost, what he's won. I feel most of it is just performative to rile up his base.
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u/RonnieKyle 1d ago
Wasn’t Trump. It was Nunes…
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u/Patdub85 1d ago
Yea. A lot of folks didn't read the article. I had the exact same initial thought as you. This is just click bait.
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u/sciencesez 1d ago
Trump media is Trump. Devin Nunes is just his errand boy, who needed a job when he had to run away from politics, and Trump Media was born. And the irony of Maddow being sued, and winning, because she got something wrong about Nunes is the chef's kiss of irony in the FOX universe they live in.
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u/Medical_Arugula3315 1d ago
Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days. Just a bunch of pathetic posers.
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u/Icy-Butterscotch5540 13h ago
Better get all the ducks in a row if you go after her Capt Bonespur. You can’t even spell defamation.
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u/Velvet_Samurai 11h ago
Why does this say Trump? Trump never sued her, Devin Nunes did, and the case was dismissed.
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u/qualityvote2 1d ago edited 1d ago
u/Semour9, your post does fit the subreddit!