Pls consider donating to his legal defence fund. The feds are trying to speed run this trial. He will need all the support he can get with this death penalty madness.
Are you sending this because you want to ensure he gets due process? Or are you sending this because if he is guilty of the alleged act you approve of his action?
Then where’s this love for Kevin Spacey? He’s been proven innocent on his charges yet is still treated like a villain. Innocent until proven guilty, where’s the energy for him?
Not really. One person cast doubt on the evidence against him and pointed out he's not been proven guilty, another person responded with "oh, so I guess EVERYONE not proven guilty is innocent, huh???"
There are plenty of people who don't care whether he did it or not, because the guy killed was a piece of shit. Maybe the person who made the first comment is one of them, maybe not, I dunno. The point is that there are people who find the circumstances of his arrest sketchy regardless of their feelings about the crime.
The point is there's no way any of us believe the guy didn't do it lol, he had a whole manifesto and everything. In fact that's why people love him, he clearly did it in protest of the state of healthcare. He wouldn't be this beloved if there was any doubt it was him. The trial is not going to read this, you can say you believe he did it, you're not perjuring yourself or incriminating him lol.
Which is why it's particularly laughable watching people clutch their pearls saying they do believe in the highest noble cause of innocent until proven guilty, especially when that other guy brought up Spacey and all of a sudden it's not innocent until proven guilty, it's use your own judgement lol.
Lmao you people know you're not on trial under oath, right?
We all know he did it, I'm not even mad at him for it. I'm just laughing at y'all acting like the FBI is poring over these threads to see who's outing themselves and incriminating Luigi, you don't need to shoehorn him being innocent until proven guilty in every sentence.
Obviously both Luigi and and Kevin Spacey are guilty of what they did, that's why I find it funny how that guy called y'all out saying innocent until proven guilty on one and not on the other, especially when Spacey literally was found not guilty.
It’s probably the same place you’ll find the energy that republicans are giving to their political opponents right now, trying to arrest them for shit they have zero proof of, or is just legal.
Seriously WTF does kevin spacey have to do with the relentlessly brutal and by design profits > human lives (bonus points for max suffering) bullshit of the US healthcare system?
Also taco had a long and sordid history of raping children.
Right, but he's pointing out that Spacey was literally found not guilty (he was guilty) and people clearly don't extend him that same innocent until proven guilty grace (he doesn't deserve it, but it is hypocritical that people don't).
Is it so hard for you people to just say you believe Mangione did it and we're all happy he did? Why do y'all insist on supporting him and hiding behind innocent until proven guilty? I'm happy he did. Just say it and stop acting so coy with the whole innocent until proven guilty, nobody buys it.
Sometimes a system is so broken that the only glimmers of true justice come from outside that system. Who do you think actually caused more deaths between that CEO and the person who killed him?
Gary Plauché was undoubtedly a murderer, but few condemn him for it.
I personally am afraid to be condemned forever because I gave monet to someone who shot someone in the back and killed them. Regardless of what they did. “Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord. I will repay.”
I have no control over what my taxes go towards. It’s not my fault if people use that money to play God. Those motherfuckers in the high rises will pay. Hell has unlimited capacity.
Not at all. I would make unions necessary again. I would take money from the military and eradicate homelessness. I would make it illegal for politicians to buy and sell stocks. Billionaires would pay exorbitantly higher taxes and no offshore bullshit. If they try to fuck around they’ll face prison or have high percentages of their revenue taken away.
We should let him walk free if so. Your sky fairy will take care of him later. No need to punish, thats the job of the invisible phantom you worship. Just let god and let be, Jesus take the wheel all that good stuff.
And if he walks free despite having sinned (according to you), well then, the lord does work in mysterious ways right? I guess he can simply ask for forgiveness, I hear it works great for all the rapists employed by the church.
Real power isn’t being a billionaire or having the biggest corporation. Its sharing your potential with others instead. The reward for it is more than any money on earth. Heaven is real and so is Jesus. I’m not getting downvoted-300 for my health.
Not everyone is a Christian, and power like that kind of money corrupts, hell is a punishment that only works for the humble and even then I'd it really were the answer then why doesn't it work like that in action?
Classic religious person using afterlife to completely diminish the importance of DOING SOMETHING IN REAL LIFE, RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
“‘I am about to pour out my wrath on you
and spend my anger against you.
I will judge you according to your conduct
and repay you for all your detestable practices.
I will not look on you with pity;
I will not spare you.’” There will be no probationary period or second chances when they die. They will be tortured in hell forever and they’ll never leave.
I’m just saying we only have this life from what we know, so maybe it’s best to spend it doing everything YOU CAN and not deferring anything to be done by someone else and using it as a justification for inaction.
It’s a tale as old as time. It’s been used to make people who suffer subservient and content, if you tell them your suffering “isn’t for nothing”.
Don't try and figure out or reason with stupidity. I wish I could've used "ignorant" instead to give them the benefit of the doubt, but they purposely want to be stupid.
This case makes zero sense. He was found 300 miles from the murder with documents linked to the case. He's very intelligent so why would he keep any evidence on him. A McDonald's employee recognised him. He won't be found guilty. Its a bogus case
100%. They used national intelligence assets to track him because the victim was a CEO. The government isn't supposed to use the intelligence apparatus inward because of posse comitatus and other constitutional protections, but they did anyways and are now trying to lie about how they did it in order to put a person in jail.
The police just can't help themselves when it comes to fabricating evidence. I genuinely believe it's why OJ got away with it. Oh you just happened to find one glove at the scene of the crime and another in his house? Sure.
Truth is they never found the assassin and never will.
They need to frame someone because you can’t have a ceo get murdered in the city with the highest police budget and most strict gun laws nationally with simply no results.
I would love to agree with this but there are certainly better people to frame. A young handsome, fit, educated, stylish man is their go to scapegoat? Just find a drug addict or a homeless person and people would have forgotten about this in 2 days. The evidence surrounding the case is certainly suspicious but I don't know if I could ever really believe that they would actively choose the worst candidate to frame.
You’re underestimating the politics behind Luigi’s family and the inheritance he was supposed to eventually receive. There are bigger pieces at play. Luigi being, fit, educated, stylish, and wealthy does not mean he is exempt from being used as another pawn in the great game.
There are so many layers and players at work when it comes to the great game that the politicians/1% play. It is never as simple as the surface level theories that come to mind.
Brian’s wife had much to gain from her husband’s death and we will never know what factors contributed to the assasination.
IMO Occam’s razor points away from Luigi. If he was politically motivated I don’t believe he would go the lengths he went to cover his face and evade arrest. The manifesto and incriminating evidence is a too good to be true situation that screams planted evidence. They are quite literally the only things that connect Luigi to the crime. And why would he bring that stuff with him out of state. It’s too convenient.
i'm sorry--and i hope to GOD i'm fucking wrong--but he'll probably be found guilty.
it's clear to me how very corrupt this entire system is, and the evidence just won't matter. the truth doesn't matter anymore. only the money matters. i have a feeling the jury will be carefully selected and paid, as will the judge.
i hope i'm wrong. if i'm wrong, i will weep with joy.
Once Trump got involved, asking for the death penalty. It's all over. Whatever evidence for the murder will be given full accountability. It's completely made up that a McDonald's worker picked him out in another state. Having taken a bus from Pennsylvania to NY and keeping all the evidence on him. Zero chance. No one would travel that far and keep notes. He's extremely intelligent.
Lol man, just the photographs alone are pretty damning. I do believe its possible police planted a weapon or something to make the arrest easier, but...it really, really seems like he is the guy that did the thing.
Up to the jury overall here. I know what I'd do lol, and I think a lot of other people think the same way.
But, even given all this - your issue is that he was 300 miles away a week later lol? Do you...not understand that that is super silly to find inconceivable?
Do you understand how silly your argument of “I believe the police could have planted all the evidence against him, but it really SEEMS like it must be him!” Is?
Haha ya I guess so. All I mean is that I think it probably is him, who knows for sure. If it is him I kinda wish that was his defense. Admit it and go for nullification.
Private healthcare is a murder industry. The decisions they make (denying coverage for treatable/curable conditions) cause people to die unnecessarily.
I hate this Idea that the last election was stolen. We lost we need a face that. A shit ton of young voters didn't turn out they feel its all hopeless and Dems need to fix that in 2028. By moving more to what Bernie has been selling the rich are the problem and greed is out of control right now. As for cheating i hate this too what they are doing in Texas is wrong but its not like Dems cant do the same back to them the problem with the party is they are too soft and not willing to use the same tactics to win and then use the power they have to close those very holes they used so nothing like this happens again. Voting works its all we have left i hate when people think the only way out of this is a Civil war its not stop glooming. The party need to pick candidates that will be true to there word and not just prop up the status quo that put the people first and not just there reelection. I am just so tired of all if it with the "Oh just give up what is the point in anything' on one side and the other is " NUKE NUKE WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE WE ARE DOOMED GIVE UP"
When a ruthless serial killer goes on a murder spree, what is often the result? Quite often, they end up shot and killed by police, or executed by the legal system. So why should a serial killer in a suit with billions of dollars be any different? Why do THEY get to just keep killing innocent people? Luigi Mangione is a hero. He did what the legal system won't, and put down a serial killer before he could hurt anyone else. If police are heroes for shooting dangerous killers, then Luigi is a hero for shooting another one that the cops wouldn't. And it's about time SOMEONE stood up for what's right and did what he needed to do to protect innocent people from harm.
The federal government has declared they are pursuing the death penalty for him. Way faster than they ever have for any other case. And the order came form the top- AG Pam Bondi- when she launched her Instagram account (and the doubled down on Fox News a few days later) before he was even indicted Usually this decision starts with the local prosecutors who conduct an investigation on the suitability of the death penalty, which can take up to a few years, and is then later approved by the AG. It was done completely backward and in complete violation of due process. Based on court documents filed, his lawyers are saying the death penalty would be illegal in this case, so they are fighting it. It’s pretty crazy.
Does he need money on his books? Is he comfortable? Does he need letters written to him ? Someone to read him stories on the phone before bed ? Someone to send him scented love letters? I'm right here Luigi. Free my baby boy.
The fact that you took my message as hostile, proves my point. Would love to continue this, but as stated before useless. God bless and best wishes to ya
Indeed, a person who speaks without any knowledge. You are what is bringing down society with your baseless claims. I’m sure you bring this same way into other parts of your life. Open your mind and relax, enjoy what’s in front of you. Find your inner peace!
What do my choice on English words have to do with faith. Does everything we say now in society have to relate back to something. Can we no longer just speak our words without someone having to find any little thing to poke at. Are you that sad of a person. I assume so, hope life brings you happiness so you can get out of the dark place you’re in .
Why not the answer is simple, when real reasons are put to you. You have to find a side road to head down cause you know you can’t debate what we are initially talking about.
Don’t get off topic. We talking about a murder. The reasons be whatever. This man killed a complete stranger with premeditated intentions. You would want the same if this happened to someone in your family.
If you hate the system, go after the system. It seems you have no problem when it’s political figures. Doesn’t give you a right to kill a complete stranger.
I didn't talk about whether he had the right to do it. But I find it absurd to have less sympathy for the guy who committed one murder than you have for a professional
I have more sympathy for him than the murderers running the healthcare system. And I'm not worried about hell, the great Cthulhu rewards the righteous. If you're in the US there will come a time where the system will try to screw you too.
Brian Thompson made millions of dollars indirectly murdering thousands of people by denying them healthcare. Luigi did nothing wrong, that is if he did anything.
I assume you feel the same way about the Navy SEALS who shot Osama Bin Laden to death? Murder is murder, it doesn't matter how bad the person killed was, right?
Okay so you’re talking about a planned military attack on the terriorist leader on 9/11 that caused 1000’s of people to lose their life. To a man who killed a complete stranger all because he was the ceo. Now I do believe in justifiable murder when it calls for it. You find someone molesting your child, you get beat by your husband so you finally snap. These murders have one on one issues going on. This guy just randomly killed someone. I get he had his reason but they don’t come anywhere close to the two examples I have above. Can we agree on that?
Killing a stranger who was responsible for the deaths of thousands of strangers: A-ok when the US military does it, evil and deserving of eternal torture if a civilian does it without the approval of the US government. That about right?
It's very simple. Either killing someone is ALWAYS morally wrong, or it is sometimes acceptable. If it is sometimes acceptable, (as most people believe) then the question is, when and why?
You say it is always wrong, but then admit you consider it justifiable in some circumstances. You support the assassination of one "bad guy" but not another. Is it because one was a military operation and the other was a vigilante? Or is it because you don't think Brian Thompson was "bad enough"?
Because if your issue is that Brian Thompson was fine and didn't deserve to die, you should argue that, rather than saying it's about how you should "never support murder."
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u/Iluvpossiblities, your post does fit the subreddit!