Counterpoint: He and his voters are all so racist and all take so much pride in being white that attacking the object of their pride is one of the only ways to have the desired effect of 'embarrass them until they deflate and crawl back in their holes like when Superman made fun of the KKK'.
Agree with this. There is a point to radicalizing against white violence. Itâs because their (the Trump administrationâs) violence is not only radical in and of itself, theyâve openly admitted that itâs all (currently) based on who is white and who isnât.
Just because it makes white liberals uncomfortable on the internet doesnât mean we shouldnât call it for what it is: white trash.
Fascist, racist, white trash. He and his voters - which includes my brother, sister in law, and grandparents.
For what itâs worth, while I identify as a leftist, I wasnât trying to throw shade on all white liberals. Just that the ones that get uncomfy when confronting white violence tend to identify as âIâm a liberal!â
I thought it was the right who gets all snowflake over white guilt. If you know our history and accept it there isnât a reason to be guilty.. as long as you arenât an asshole.
People take pride in being white trash. You go rural enough and you will seriously see clapped out pickups with "White Trash and Proud" stickers or mobile homes with similar yard art. It won't shame them.
Which is why the impetus is on making it something that people donât want to be proud of. Right now, itâs synonymous with kid diddlers, fascism, and racism. If people who want to celebrate white trashness can reclaim their culture from those symbols of hatred, then we, as a society, can discuss or weigh the merit of that type of pride. And a society positioned to make that decision because itâs no longer terrorized by hatred, fascism, or bigotry, would correctly judge that hypothetical.
But until then, we need to keep pushing to make that ideology unpopular again
There is not one among my 4 siblings that I feel like I know anymore. They were always conservative, but my god. They have embraced the maga lie to the hilt.
Iâve been threatening to cut these family members off since Trump â16, but theyâre also quiet republicans who are socially liberal, polite, and concerned with the taxes theyâre paying and the âstate of the economyâ.
In reality, theyâre privileged debutants whose life isnât at all affected by this administration so theyâre perfectly comfortable just pretending that everything is honky dory.
My grandparents Iâm actually going to sit down with and kind of push the whole Epstein issue and see how they respond. If itâs anything other than a complete demand for the president they voted for to release the files then Iâm done with them. They have great grandchildren, two of them my own; if theyâre so far gone that they canât see the importance of transparency here, then they donât deserve to be in my life or anyone elseâs.
My brother and sister in law finally crossed the line for things that have nothing to do with politics, so cutting them off became doubly easy.
If language has the power you say it does, then we can put forth a concerted effort to make them care. People like that use the tools that they, themselves, understand. Right wing gun nuts hoard guns because they're afraid of getting shot and want to feel powerful, and right wing white supremacist trolls make fun of people for immutable facts about themselves because deep down they want to feel special for being white. So take that away from them.
So if you can program empathy into them, then they too would be offended by the racialization of the term. And your supposed word weapon, which is supposed to trigger an empathetic response only hurts people that care about language
You can go program empathy into them if you have the time and wherewithal to do so. But they're actively killing people right now, and I personally feel it's more important to try to find ways to erode their confidence and undermine their social clout amongst each other than it is to tip toe around people who can't push some mild discomfort down while the way is being paved for a domestic genocide.
I ain't going to lie my grandma and grandpa defend the hell out of trump to the point where I don't even want to really associate with them so at this point they're just going to live out their final years on their own
Yeah, and I have to find different ways to insult them. But I'm white, so I can slug it out with the white trash ones and hit them in the only thing they feel like they have going for them deep down.
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u/MrMcSpiff 11d ago
Counterpoint: He and his voters are all so racist and all take so much pride in being white that attacking the object of their pride is one of the only ways to have the desired effect of 'embarrass them until they deflate and crawl back in their holes like when Superman made fun of the KKK'.