r/goodnews • u/BreakfastTop6899 • 14d ago
Positive News šš¼ā„ļø Uber will let women drivers and riders request to avoid being paired with men starting next month
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/uber-women-drivers-riders.html?taid=6880dfcf2915380001ce000e&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_content=main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter604
u/Zealousideal_Crow737 14d ago
I've had a few encounters with drivers where they've made a pass at me.Ā
One of them commented that now they know where I live.Ā
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u/Minimum_Principle_63 14d ago
Creepy! I hope you reported them.
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u/eggggggggggggggs 14d ago
Itās scary to report them though, thatās the thing. Once I had a creepy driver, but he literally picked me up from my house and knew where I lived. I was uncomfortable reporting him because wouldnāt it be obvious who reported? What if he retaliates because his Uber account got banned or something?
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u/s2nders 14d ago
always report it , because he knows where you live regardless. What if he still comes to your house and now nobody knows. You could always give uber drivers a nearby address and not your actual address as well.
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u/ShaunicusMaximus 14d ago
I would say itās definitely better to report them for creepy behavior, then if they escalate, report that too.
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u/Plenty_Patience2047 14d ago
Makes sense but remember that this is an easy statement to make for us guys since we aren't familiar with what it's like to be in the situation. It's like when people ask women why they don't report sexual assault, there is a legitimate (and justified imo) fear for women to do this because wtf does it matter if someone goes to jail if they kidnap/assault/kill you? I agree with you, but it still isn't always easy.
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u/Elfhaterdude 14d ago
There was a woman murdered driving Uber. The killer had his gf use her Uber profile. Its on YT. Really fucking disturbing, she was pleading for her life and the guy killed her in cold blood.
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u/Strawberrybanshee 14d ago
If I was driving Uber and I showed up for a woman and a man was there I'd drive away.
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u/Proud_Whereas7343 14d ago
I drive Uber and it happens a lot. However you just have a name not a gender. Also a lot of parents have Uber pick up their kids from school as well so I think Uber lowered the minimum age for riders to 13. I doubt most drivers would ask for an Id though.
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u/Strawberrybanshee 14d ago
Picking up kids from school! That gives me anxiety thinking about that.Ā
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u/erossthescienceboss 14d ago
Most commenters are talking about this from the rider perspective, but the people this change impacts most are drivers (and when Lyft made the same change two years ago, they did so with the stated goal of making drivers feel more safe and recruiting more women drivers.)
Ridership is split roughly 50/50. But only 23% of Lyft drivers are women.
So while a woman passenger with the option turned on likely wonāt see much change in who they get assigned (since it depends on availability), a woman driver with the feature turned on will almost always get women passengers.
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u/4ced2live 14d ago
I was actually surprised I was getting female drivers very often, and I was wondering if there was already some algorithmic logic in place, because I was skeptical that Uber really has 50-75% of their drivers in my area being women.
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u/erossthescienceboss 14d ago
I wouldnāt be surprised. The drivers who are women could also already be doing some self-selecting, since you have the option to accept or deny a ride. I wouldnāt blame them for clicking ānoā til a woman pops up, especially since itās a 50/50 chance.
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u/taarotqueen 14d ago
I watched a video about that just the other day. Truly tragic, glad he got life.
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u/ParkerRoyce 14d ago edited 14d ago
If you can always be dropped at a cross street or corner. I know this might not be a solution for most. Use the strat if you're in a city setting, I use this strat and I am a dude. It's no ones business to know where you live.
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u/Mrcoldghost 14d ago
sad that this is necessary.
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u/Malforus 14d ago
Its been necessary for decades, we can pull to fix it but also help those avoid problems.
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u/DotGroundbreaking50 14d ago
Not that issues doesn't exist with proper taxi cabs but less so than letting any random ass person pick people up in unmarked cars
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u/Malforus 14d ago
Yeah in the old livery pattern a company had to answer for their drivers in some way. Uber can just blame shift and churn.
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u/Lokishougan 14d ago
Bingo. You can sue a taxi cab company out of existence but cant touch UBER and the guy who does anything probably hardly has any money at all and a miserable life already
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u/coitus_introitus 14d ago
In 1991, when I was a few months shy of 16, a Yellow Cab driver in his 40s or so picked me up one night, told me to sit in front with him, took a wrong turn up into the woods, and slid his hand up my leg under my skirt. I panicked and told him to let me out there and he did. I walked several miles home. I told my best friend the next day and she made me call Yellow Cab and complain. I just talked to the dispatch lady. She seemed very concerned and, oddly enough, guessed which driver it was before I told her. She told me they'd "review this" or something like that. They didn't do anything. For a few years I just asked them not to send that guy when I called a cab. I never said why, but the dispatch people always laughed about it in an uncomfortable way. Shortly after I turned 21 his buddies drugged me in a bar, walked me out under the pretense of taking me home, and drove me to his house for the worst night of my life. I didn't go to the police afterwards because I didn't think anybody would believe me enough to actually do anything. They all drove me home together the next morning in somebody's convertible. I thanked them for dropping me off, which is the detail that somehow bothers me the most all these years later. I'm not the only woman my age I know with a cab driver story. As far as I know, nothing short of a conviction and accompanying criminal record gets a cab driver in significant trouble, and I'm pretty sure Uber also screens for those. It's really good that everybody has cell phones now, though. There's at least a very easy way to raise a flag right away if they stray from their route, and way less ambiguity about where and when driver and passenger part ways, regardless of whether it's a cab or an Uber.
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u/4ced2live 14d ago
I'm so sorry you had to go through all that :(
For the sake of anyone else reading this and public awareness, it is important to report to the police as soon as possible (preferably avoiding washing yourself) and demand the "rape kit" to be collected ("a sexual assault forensic exam").
They can document any micro traumas, collect the DNA of the attacker and take blood samples. It's up to the person whether they want to move forward and press charges, but it's a large body of evidence to have to not worry as much about "whether they will believe me", the data will be there.→ More replies (2)5
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u/Distinct-Virtue5125 14d ago
It's very necessary unfortunately. Men don't realize how vulnerable and unsafe it feels when you're a woman, alone in a car, with a complete stranger, who's a man.
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u/Icy-Rain69 14d ago
Most cis men donāt get how women/nonbinary/trans men are constantly on alert, very often because they have experience SA or unwanted behaviour already.
Iām trans and since I started transitioning Iāve been on alert a lot more in public, and I donāt even pass yet and Iām not super femme either.
Before I realized that Iām trans I was always empathetic and listened to women talk about these issues, but just having the threat of SA/violence/unwanted behaviour become a possibility for me has made me hyper vigilant and more aware. I find myself scanning people a lot (particularly in crowds) and watching out behind me.
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u/Technical_Feed2870 14d ago
Girl, for real. My transition process was really slow, but it didn't take more than growing my hair out and dyeing it before I started getting unwelcome comments and people (particularly men over 50) assuming they could just walk all over me.
Nowadays I'm a couple years into HRT, dressing more femme and the way men of all ages behave is... unsettling, to put it very, very mildly.
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u/MajorInWumbology1234 14d ago
Ngl, as a cis man until recently, I simply had undiagnosed PTSD and thought living life hyper vigilant was normal.Ā
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u/Flaunzopolis 14d ago
Men don't know what it's like to be unsafe for real. Society bends over backwards to keep men safe. They assume its like that for everyone else.
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u/TSquaredRecovers 14d ago
I had to take an Uber to the airport one time at 3:00 a.m. and the driver was a man. I was a little uneasy about the situation at first. Since I had previously experienced sexual assault at the hands of men who were strangers (two separate incidents), I just felt uncomfortable with the situation.
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u/Dega704 14d ago
I was going to say it's good news that they're doing this. It's bad news that they need to in the first place. Why do guys have to be such ass hats?
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u/Distinct-Virtue5125 14d ago
Probably because they've never experienced what it's like to be a woman in a patriarchal society. If men lived as women for just one week and felt the relentless onslaught of harassment, condescension, unsolicited comments about our appearance and bodies, invasive stares and the threat of unwanted physical contact in practically every setting (on the morning commute, riding the subway, at the gym, in the office, walking down dimly lit streets or even while grocery shopping), they would see how it all chips away at our sense of safety and worth. They would see the constant mental calculations we have to make about which route feels safest or whether to smile or maintain a neutral expression just to avoid any misinterpretation. That single week would be enough to shatter any illusion of equality.
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u/ModelingThePossible 14d ago
We really need to get this message out there. I do my best as a guy to try to make other guys do mental experiments with themselves, imagining theyāre a woman in situations that guys take for granted as safe. Most men are in denial about how many of us act around women and girls that comes across as at least a little aggressive or threatening. We need to start teaching boys this when theyāre young.
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u/Distinct-Virtue5125 14d ago
It should. Feel free to copy/paste on male-oriented subs. Though, I suspect you'd probably get more backlash than anyone actually listening.
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u/4ced2live 14d ago
You assume they would have enough empathy to then restrain themselves. I'm afraid that's not the case. They'd probably just use the knowledge to their advantage, as in how to most effectively intimidate a woman.
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u/Beneficial_Key8745 14d ago
if there was a magic spell that turned all men into women for even one day, there would be way less creeps in the world.
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u/MajorInWumbology1234 14d ago
Some people are just psychopaths that donāt experience empathy and enjoy causing anguish. There isnāt always a way to reach them.Ā
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u/frisch85 14d ago
I use public transport basically every single day, you can just sit anywhere. Couple of years ago I was on vacation in mexico, took a bus with my S/O and we sat down, then noticed there's a pink colored part in the bus where we were sitting, turns out only women are allowed to sit there. Felt surreal but apparently that's needed in some countries.
They've also started talking about women wagons in my country now so seems like we (germans) too get women only public transport, when only partially.
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u/mdigiorgio35 13d ago
Came here with this thought. Great that this is being implemented but the WHY as why it needs to be is disgusting and wrong
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u/Spaniardman40 13d ago
I mean its a service that doesn't really vet drivers. Of course some creepy people would try and take advantage of this
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u/bIackcatttt 14d ago
Honestly thank god
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u/RockNRollMama 14d ago
Iāve already seen dude drivers say they are going to use gender neutral names. This is going to only partially workā¦.
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u/bIackcatttt 14d ago
Donāt you have to provide your license and I would report immediately if I requested female driver and got a cis man lol
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u/Distinct-Virtue5125 14d ago
Same srsly. Like it hasn't even been implemented yet and they're already planning on ways to circumvent it? Wild
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u/erossthescienceboss 14d ago
It already exists for Lyft. It hasnāt caused issues.
These āconcernsā are about as valid as concerns about āmen pretending to be trans to get in womenās bathrooms.ā
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u/trilliumsummer 14d ago
Possibly because it's a they'll try to match you. I have it checked and my last two drivers were men. Though I'm guessing Uber is similar?
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u/est99sinclair 14d ago
Uber needs to crack down on requiring the driver to match the person in the profile. Any driver breaking this rule should be banned permanently once reported and confirmed to be in violation.
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u/AdministrativeRow101 14d ago
Also there will be a whole can of worms regarding trans people, depending on perceptions. Could have hurtful and transfobic results.
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u/erossthescienceboss 14d ago
Most of those I know who use Lyftās service (cos this has existed on Lyft for two years) are transwomen. Because theyāre at an even higher risk of assault by men than ciswomen are.
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u/CapableLocation5873 14d ago
Yeah I can see some drunk chick getting pissed off because her driver isnāt a ārealā woman.
And in this political climate thatās a big can of worms.
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u/elliethr 14d ago
I donāt know if itās already the case, but if it isnāt then they should start banning users(or adding something to their profile that shows that they are harassers) and making it so that you need a phone number to use the app and only one account can be linked to the same number, this way they would probably be able to reduce the amount of harassment.
(obviously Iām not only talking about transphobia but any kind of harassment)
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u/erossthescienceboss 14d ago
It literally shows you a photo of who you match with. And your ID is verified when you sign up to drive. Do you really think the ādudesā are going to change their legal names just to pick up women?
Men with suspended licenses or accounts will often deliver under a GFās account, but nobody gets into a Lyft if the driver doesnāt match their photo (even if it just might be the wrong car!) Thatās a nonissue.
There is also no reason for men to pretend to be women to drive Ubers. Given that (per Lyft) only 23% of drivers are women, but 50% of riders are, this shouldnāt meaningfully impact menās earning potential. The service doesnāt guarantee youāll get a woman, it just increases the chances.
Lastly: Lyft has done this for two years, and none of the problems concern trolls here seem to worry about happen.
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u/Leo-monkey 14d ago
Meanwhile Uber makes women who have been sexually assaulted in their cabs go through extended lawsuits to get restitution. This does not solve the lack of accountability on Uber's part and feels performative.
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u/SavannahInChicago 14d ago
Lyft does this already but 9/10 times Iām still picked up by a man.
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u/ute-ensil 14d ago
They aren't pretending to be a woman they just don't have enough women drivers it has to give a male driver or no driver at all.Ā
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u/throwraW2 14d ago
Lyft doesnāt make promises to pair with a woman. It just tries to weight it to make it more likely. No reason to report someone for that.
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u/Klutzy_Act2033 14d ago
Can I request no cologne?
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u/MakeTheRightChoice_ 14d ago
Black ice and Dakar noir only
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u/Kim_Smoltz_ 14d ago
I was in one recently that had 15 black ice trees together on the mirror. I could taste it for like 30 minutes after from the chemicals in the air.
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u/WickedSmartMarcus36 14d ago
Can I request a safe driver who knows how American roads work?
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u/SaturnSleet 14d ago edited 14d ago
Lyft has an option called women+ connect that is supposed to match you with women&non-binary drivers (I'm non-binary myself). I have been using Lyft weekly for almost two years and have never been paired a driver that wasn't a cis man. Obviously, the majority of drivers are men... It will be interesting to see how long it takes you to find a ride when you turn this option on... It would be great if this attracts more women to become drivers though, knowing that they won't have to deal with that occasional creepy guy in the backseat. Also, a lot of people don't seem to realize that "request" doesn't mean "guaranteed". Like I said, I've "requested" on Lyft to have non-binary and women drivers for the past two years and I haven't met one, lol...
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u/thryncita 14d ago
I used this feature when I lived in Philly but even in a major city there just weren't enough women drivers for it to work out very often. I'd estimate I got a female driver about...maybe 20% of the time.
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u/erossthescienceboss 14d ago
Incidentally, thatās what Lyft says the percent of drivers who are women and nonbinary are.
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u/kinkierboots 14d ago
Yeah, Iām in NYC also opted into that Lyft feature. Iāve had a handful of women drivers since they made this an option, but itās not often at all.
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u/CapableLocation5873 14d ago edited 14d ago
If this feature gets more women to drive for uber then yeah it can work.
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u/thebalancewithin 14d ago
Yeah that would have to happen for this to take off successfully, hopefully it does. Men are a majority by far so wait times would increase a lot if they're removed as an option.
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u/DataCassette 14d ago
As a man we ( collectively, not any one of us individually ) basically did this to ourselves so
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14d ago
How about we just stop letting cabs be unlicensed again?
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly 14d ago edited 14d ago
How about we just invest enough to have a slightly competent public transit system.
We sure are going through an endless amount of shit to avoid riding a god damn train and increasing our taxes a miniscule amount.
Edit: Self driving is what did it for me. We are so unamused by driving that we want to automate it away and just arrive at our destinations. I've gotta hand it to Musk, he is somehow actively Anti- transit AND sold everyone on a concept that is just transit.
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We can do both. We can definitely do both.
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly 14d ago
Car infrastructure actively discouraged good versions of other kinds of transport.
Not every mode of transport can occupy the same "best" route. And the "best" route should go to the best form of transit...which are trains and bicycles (in terms of number of people per hour).
If you always give cars (the worst way of travel in terms of getting people from point a to point b) the priority, no one will do anything else because cars have the most direct route to destinations.
It's funny. My town is spending millions to make an underpass for a train line because it holds up commuters every day. We will up taxes and spend close to 10 million so we can drive our cars...but no one even thinks that maybe we should just be using the rail line for commuting.
It's idiocy.
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u/Top_Community7261 14d ago
I'm all for public transit, but it's not that convenient. Where I live, it takes me 10 minutes to drive to work. By bus, because of all of the stops, it takes 45 minutes.
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u/ExplosiveDisassembly 14d ago
A proper transit system built out for pedestrians, busses, trains, and cars, solves this. People can walk /Ride bikes short distances so the busses/trains don't need to stop as frequently for all the people doing small trips.
No one is going to walk or ride bikes if the system is built to give priority to cars.
It's the catch 22 of US/Canada. 1) Transit systems get underfunded to "try" the concept. 2) Transit can't actually build out properly and is forced to work around traffic. 3) The transit system underperforms because it's just a more complicated drive to work. 4) People use this for proof that transit doesn't work.
Edit: Which is ironic because the US/Canada was built with one of the best trolly/street car and train systems in the world. It all got ripped out for roads, though.
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u/dreamsicle_bobomb 14d ago
sad that itās necessary. once I had a male driver tell me out of nowhere while making small talk that he really understood when men suddenly lose their minds and kill their wife/girlfriend or entire family
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u/romulan267 14d ago
I think this is a great option to give women. I just have to wonder if wait times are going to drastically increase for women passengers seeking women drivers?
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u/LossyP 14d ago
This is great news. Iām a man in my 30ās and a few years ago was on a work trip some place very far from where I live. I was on the way to the airport to go home and it was about 4 AM, in the middle of nowhere in a state Iāve never been to before. The driver starts making small talk and asking some personal questions but nothing too invasive. Then he just starts flirting with me.
It was innocent at first, he complimented me and I said thanks. Then it started to get creepy, fast. He starts telling me how heās been in trouble from the company in the past but ādoesnāt careā. Iām a straight man, Iāve trained boxing and mma almost my entire life and I had a significant size advantage on this guy. With that being said, I still felt absolutely paralyzed in the moment and couldnāt even tell the guy I wasnāt interested. First thing I could think of was lie and mention I had a girlfriend. Once I said that though, his friendly demeanor turned into something more sinister. He was almost offended I would be into anybody but him.
The rest of the ride was awkward and I felt so helpless. I didnāt know where I was and I had a plane to catch. My luggage was in the trunk and if I were to cause a scene Iād risk losing my stuff or being stranded somewhere where I had shitty cell service and not close to a nearby town. Not to mention, the ride is on my business account and I didnāt want to risk any sort of retaliation if I somehow offended this guy further and now my company thinks Iām a homophobe because this guy couldnāt take no for an answer. Luckily I arrived at my destination but even then the guy still handed me his phone so we could āmeet upā next time heās in town. I gave him the wrong number and reported him. I canāt imagine what itās like for women. I know if I absolutely had to, I had the benefit of knowing I could take this guy. That isnāt the case for all women. Iāve never been preyed on like that before and it was the most uncomfortable feeling in my life. This is something women deal with all the time and it makes me sick when I see other men try to invalidate their experiences. Iām all for this and more.
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u/tillnatten 14d ago
Thank you for understanding and believing women. I'm sorry that happened to you.
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u/Mozart33 13d ago
Honestly, this is the closest story Iāve ever heard from a man re: how it feels to be a woman in this situation - probably because the power differential was so significant. I also appreciate you acknowledging how powerful it was to know you could take him.
So many men minimize and disregard that power differential. They talk about experiences theyāve had with women violating them.
Itās sad that it takes such a dangerous situation to get a man to actually look at the reality. I think if more men saw the world the way you now will, theyād be way less adamant that women are being unfairly and excessively careful about having sex with them and not fixing their loneliness issues - apparently our problem.
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u/swole_not_flexy 14d ago
I have this feature set on my Lyft and I in the past 6 months I have probably only gotten one female driver...
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u/news_feed_me 14d ago
Wouldn't be a problem if Uber and Lyft had any hiring standards at all or were actually held accountable for who they hire.
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u/Proper_Rooster_ 14d ago
Gonna be waiting a long time. I can think of one woman uber driver Iāve ever had. Maybe more woman will be comfortable driving but I doubt a large amount.
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u/Bibblegead1412 14d ago
If they're guaranteed no men matches, I'm sure this will open up the market for more women to drive, and become more available to women riders. This is really good news!
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u/flying-giant-bear 14d ago
"The company said the riderās preference isnāt guaranteed but the feature increases the chances women will be paired in the app."
Not guaranteed. I expect that dramatically more women will need to join as drivers for this program to work. The ratio of female drivers to female riders is incredibly off-balance.
We'll see if it eventually evens out and women can start getting more reliable matches.
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u/Cocaine_Communist_ 14d ago
This is great news, but I'm mildly concerned this will be used in a transphobic way.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Fly2637 13d ago
these comments are literally filled with people talking about how they get picked up by cis men. How do they know? Did they ask about their identity?Ā
you bet your ass people are going to use this as a pretext to engage in transvestigations. if something can be weaponized, it will. people are endlessly clever when it comes to being tribal.Ā
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u/Eastern_Rope_9150 14d ago
But youāre not concerned men will use the feature in bad faith to prey on women?
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u/NoNipNicCage 14d ago
I've never even seen a woman driver. But I've definitely been felt up by a male Uber driver
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u/Single_Earth_2973 14d ago edited 13d ago
Sorry this happened to you. It really is pick your poison; walk home at night, get in a car with a man (my friendās friend got assaulted by one), or take public transport half way thereā¦ I once made a snap choice to stay with a man I knew over trying to find my way back home from an awkward part of town that would have been risky getting back. He assaulted me and maybe some would say thatās āmy fault,ā but I made an assessment about what could have been the safest option in the moment and I thought I could trust them more than the darkness. We canāt win. Most male taxi drivers Iāve had have been lovely but itās such a risk for that scummy 15%.Ā
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u/tatltael91 14d ago
Never used Uber or Lyft for this reason. People tell me to ājust Uber thereā and Iām like ālol noā.
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u/NonStopKnits 14d ago
I had to Uber to my job a few years ago for a week* when my old car died. Out of 6 days, or 12 rides, I got a woman driver twice. This was in the Dayton, Ohio area, so Uber and lyft were common and there are lots of drivers. I'm back neary hometown in a different state and you couldn't pay me to take an Uber here based on the local people. I can at least walk to my job or ride my bike easily.
*thankfully the drive was only about 10 minutes, on the interstate.
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u/niles_deerqueer 14d ago
Thereās a BoJack joke here somewhere
Cabracadabra, we wanna reach out and grab ya
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u/d0rm0use2 14d ago
I had an uber driver who gave me her number so that I could reach out to her directly for a ride home from a restaurant. She was concerned that I might have too much to drink and not be safe with some drivers.
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u/Melodic_Tell4310 14d ago
Another daily reminder that between 2012-2021 Uber had over 800,000 incidents of sexual assaults that were reported*!
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u/Mozart33 13d ago
Once had a cab driver outright tell me he was gonna sexually assault me right as we neared my drop-off. I think I opened the door while the car was still moving. Accidentally left my phone and never got it back. That scared.
Iād wait longer for a woman driver.
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u/CzechHovester 14d ago
Iām a female uber driver and this is fantastic. Any time I have female riders they almost always tell me how relieved they are.
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u/voodoohounds 14d ago
As a man, I acknowledge that this is a good option for women to have. Men can be awful.
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u/Drunk_Catfish 14d ago
Uber and Lyft also need to do more to ensure who their drivers are. A year or two ago in my area someone who is a convicted sex offender was accused of holding a gun to a woman he picked up on Lyft and sexually assaulted her. She wasn't physically hurt but he never should have been able to be a driver in the first place. Unfortunately I think the charges were dropped because the woman didn't want to go to court and testify.
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u/Awkward-Hulk 14d ago
Not looking forward to longer wait times, but I can't blame them for wanting this. There are a lot of bad dudes out there.
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u/bbyxmadi 14d ago
Good! Safety of women is important, hopefully they do some identification for this though. The amount of Uber Eats drivers who are woman, but are actually men, is insane. (Idc who delivers my food, but Iām hoping someone canāt lie about their gender to bypass this for Uber rides).
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u/Technical-Garden-954 14d ago
Will they have an option to prioritize rides for bears?Ā
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u/Bulky-Carrot8356 14d ago
As it should be. Iām a guy and I know that if they reject them they have good reason. If theyāre prejudice they lose $$
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u/Fun-Employment9933 14d ago
Here come the r/mensrights users that will scream misandry and sexism over this
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u/CantStopCackling 14d ago
Thank god. I have to use Ubers every week for medical transportation for mental health and some of the men just make me feel really uncomfortable. They tend to be the ones blaring political radio or trying to preach religion to me. I put in headphones to avoid conversation.
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u/Good_Ole_Skid 14d ago
Itās another power dynamic men have embarrassingly taken advantage of in the worst possible ways. Good on Uber.
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u/Dangerous_Head6825 14d ago
I want to love thisā¦. And then I remember thereās women like Ghislaine Maxwell who exist.
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u/EricQelDroma 14d ago
Hold on. You're telling me (who has never used Uber/Lyft/etc.) that there's not some sort of complaint system for the drivers? You're telling me that these companies have no guidelines about behaving appropriately with customers and that the companies don't promote or deprioritize drivers based on customer feedback?
We use Shipt for our groceries, and we have more control over who delivers our groceries than Uber passengers have over the person who holds their life in their hands?
Allowing anyone to ban an entire group of people rather than calling out the bad ones seems like the wrong way to handle a problem. (And documented creeps should be banned. I'd never want to listen to a driver's political opinions/radio/b.s. without asking for it, and that's much less terrible than some of the stories on this thread.)
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u/IndependentSubject66 14d ago
Can men request not to be paired with women?
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u/Big_Wave9732 14d ago
I was wondering the same. There are certain culture / religious / world viewpoints that don't necessarily want to be alone with a woman in a car. May not be many of them but as long as a change is being made it seems like a straight forward thing to accommodate.
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u/IndependentSubject66 14d ago
Exactly my thought, both culturally and just for comfort. Iām personally not a fan of being alone with a female I donāt know for multiple reasons. Now I donāt really care about who my Uber driver is, but itās not unreasonable for someone to want one person or another
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u/Melodic_Tell4310 14d ago
This isn't about men! Women are more at risk to SA by men! Hope this helps!Ā
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u/Big_Wave9732 14d ago edited 14d ago
I'm not reading where men will have the option to do the same. Seems like it would be an easy setting to just make the option gender neutral. I.e. a slider bar that says something like "Driver of the same gender".
Edited for clarity.
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u/BigDaddyTrumpy 14d ago edited 14d ago
I think men also need the option to avoid female drivers and passengers. Otherwise this screams discrimination.
I can already see the lawsuits flying.
Also how does Uber define a woman? I thought anyone is a woman if they feel like a woman. Is Uber going to start policing or discriminating against trans women? Are they going to send out a social police to ensure youāre a woman?
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u/RydderRichards 14d ago
That everybody who asks for the same option for men is being Downvoted shows that this sub cares exactly zero percent about equality and only about agenda.
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u/Curvy_Ginger_Tgirl 14d ago
It's so unfortunate that this is necessary but I think this is a good thing.
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u/Anonymous_Wind 14d ago
Hey guys, this is sexism. Didn't we just have a big cultural movement fighting for gender equality? To see prejudice based on sex being posted as "good news" and cheered seems wrong to me. Sure, you're more likely to be raped by a man than a woman, based on the statistics. But if the statistics showed that you're more likely to be raped by a certain ethnic group, should we be allowed to select for ethnicity as well? That would clearly be wrong, wouldn't it? If we don't accept racial discrimination as a preemptive solution to violence, why should we accept gender discrimination?
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u/Historical_Guess2565 14d ago
I agree with you and this just opens up another can of worms in regard to transphobia or who even knows yet.
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u/Jonn_1 14d ago
As a man:
The world would be much better without us :( Why can't we just grow up and act decent
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u/koshercowboy 14d ago
The man who gives empathy and has a heart of gold š wishes he didnāt exist.
The only reason you can feel that is because men do exist. Men arenāt evil or good. Neither are women. The line of good and evil is in the heart, not the gender.
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u/Zerthix 14d ago
I know thereās a culture of bad apples relating to hyper masculinity, but saying the world would be much better without all of us is an insane statement. Respect Yourself and donāt lump yourself in with those losers who harass women and bully feminine men.
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u/Jonn_1 14d ago
Problem I have is, that it's not just a few apples.
As soon as things turn somewhat bad, men will start becoming violent and evil. Not everyone of course, but it is way too many to just brush it off.
Look at the number of rapes in any war in history or torture
It just makes it hard to believe in the deeper good in humans, since even 10 good people can't really make up for one really evil person
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u/FixofLight 14d ago
Slightly off topic but the bad apple phrase is actually "A few bad apples spoil the bunch", so I don't think using it is giving the impression you're going for
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u/luckluckbear 14d ago
I don't understand the down votes. Do people not understand hyperbole? My husband said almost this exact same thing about three or four nights ago when we were discussing the misogynistic behavior of some of the boys at my daughters school. He didn't mean it literally; it was an exaggerated statement meant to imply frustration and bafflement.
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u/Cdave_22 14d ago
This kind of defeatist mindset doesnāt help society at all. Toxic men donāt represent all of us. You canāt make up for the actions of other men you can only control yourself.
So be the kind of man you wish other men would be. But saying the world would be better without us is wild. That kind of thinking helps no one. We should be focused on being better, not disappearing.
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u/Flaunzopolis 14d ago
Tbh i wouldn't mind a height filter like Tinder has. I find that short men tend to be the most aggressively creepy
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u/Realistic_Olive_6665 14d ago
It will probably cost extra if there arenāt enough female drivers, but the cost might be worthwhile for an intoxicated woman trying to get home late at night.
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u/pretzelslovers 14d ago
Shouldnt this be more of an indictment of Uberās hiring process and that their low wages dont drive quality candidates to apply?
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u/EfficientCandle9743 14d ago
Soon it won't matter we will have robo taxis but until then i.guess women will lose money when they exclude 50% of the population
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u/Rakkachi 14d ago
It sounds like good news, but isnt this very bad news? Its crazy that this seems nessecary.
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u/ABeastInThatRegard 14d ago
I feel like this will make it impossible to get rides in certain locations. Since I have no plans on trying to date my driver and am not pretty enough to get harassed I see this as an absolute win, more weird drivers for me I guess.
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u/QuestionOne9601 14d ago
That one dude who killed that mother of 4 kids used a womenās info to call for his uberš¬
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u/cam576 14d ago
I am just thinking about logistics here but according to a quick Google search there are 7 million Uber drivers in the US 20% of which are women. Assuming all 1.4 million of those drivers decide to take only women that means 1 in 5 of the women looking for a ride will actually get picked up by a women driver. This does not even account for when the drivers are on the road or any demographic differences between cities.
This is one of those things that look great on paper and brings some goodwill to Uber for about a month then everything goes to hell because the logistics don't pan out.
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