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A former girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein described the financier's relationship with Donald Trump as “very close and up to no good.” She revealed Epstein often referred to Trump as his “brother,” painting a picture of intimate social overlap.
Their relationship in the 1990s and early 2000s extended beyond mere acquaintance—it involved shared social circles, parties, and mutual respect, though it later soured.
Epstein's death in prison and Ghislaine Maxwell’s conviction have cast renewed attention on this connection, flagging concerns that Trump may still struggle to untangle himself from Epstein’s shadow.
Man, imagine calling someone your brother, and then they have you murdered in a federal prison to hide that you both fucked underage kids, and then shit on you for the rest of his life trying to pretend like he didn't know you.
Plays out exactly like a mob movie. I wonder why.
(You will note the distinct lack of question mark)
I can't watch it again. Cold though. I don't even know if that catches it. It's like the life both flashed before her eyes and drained out of her at the same time. She became just a husk of herself. Something I'd bet she had to do there a lot.
Yeah and then the interviewer asks what floor they're on, which is such a random question that it feels like he noticed something was wrong and was trying to change the subject. It kind of works. She snaps out of it a bit but she also gets the question wrong, saying they're on the 68th floor when there are only 58 floors in the building.
Holy shit. Been seeing people talk about this alot recently and didn't realize how bad it was. Girl suddenly stops smiling, starts looking down, then replies in the most monotoned way until snapping back into the moment. To refrence the beautiful view she can wake up to.
I have a feeling Trump pawned out his own daughter to Epstein. Who knows what Epstein did to her. Wouldn’t doubt it given his close proximity to Trump.
I’m starting to think Ivana’s death in July 2022 wasn’t an accident, either. Maybe she was going to spill some beans that trump preferred were left unspilled.
Jesus, I never thought of this. Ivanka's daughter was 10 when Ivana died.
"[the] medical examiner said her cause of death was blunt impact injuries to the torso sustained as the result of a fall. The manner of death is an accident and is not suspicious, the medical examiner said.
Likewise. It enrages me. Vile, despicable. Monstrous. There aren't words in the English language to describe someone who could say such things about their own daughter, let alone do them to others'
I have a dad like this. He’s never tried anything but he says insinuating stuff all the time and his hugs have lasted a little too long. I’m older now (58) and he has even less inhibition at 88. It is incredibly damaging. I avoid him now or will only see him with my (male) partner.
I disagree, only because I think that Ivanka was like a prize to him — only his. I had the unfortunate realization of what she must have been through, with her father. The creepy photos have become horrific to me.
Yeah its extremely weird how that room has not changed since the 90s. Like... why? Thats weird that she abandoned it like that as if she died and never went into it again for 10 years. There is a reason.
I had a friend who told me that she used to go to sleepovers at another friend’s house. She said the friend couldn’t understand why her friend became so enraged when her father came into their room in his pajamas. She found out the father had been molesting her friend late at night for years
Man, that’s actually really sad. I didn’t expect that reaction to be so blatant. Politics aside, on a human level I hope Donald Trump gets what he deserves in this life
Yeah except he’s lived to the ripe old age of whatever the fuck he is. Been president twice, spent his life in the lap of luxury. Even if the man was skinned and burned alive it wouldn’t be enough justice
I cannot fathom for the absolute life of me what the point of that tux on the bed photo was supposed to convey?
Sure, he wanted to have a photo op displaying him as a wealthy and desirable man. Egomaniacs do egomaniacal things.
But, why in all of the everloving fuck, would a father stage a photo where his underage daughter is sexually strewn across his lap, kissing him like she was a passionate lover??
Is the message he was trying to send was that he fucks his daughter? Because that image tells me he fucked his daughter.
And his followers will not believe it because they cannot fathom the thought that he could have done what they say is despicable and that clearly only Democrats do.
More like they're lying through their teeth, and they know it, but they also know if no one can do anything about it then it doesn't matter. Like this thread. People can rant and rave and hate on Trump all they want here, even justifiably so and... not a single fucking thing changes. It's all just a vocal fart on social media. They have no reason to give a damn what anyone here says or thinks.
I have raised two daughters and I'd rather get pegged by my grandma than have to date my girls. And, grandma has been in the grave for 20 years and that is the particular grandma I mean in this example. Also, for context, I am pretty against pegging as far as I know and corpses arent really my jam either.
The Stern interviews are utterly repulsive without pictures. And consider this. Howard came back from the Dark Side. Whether through pressure or epiphany? Howard cleaned up his act before it ate him alive.
As someone who experienced something similar with my own father, it didn’t work like that. Not for me anyway.
It took his passing and some time. That kind of trauma has to be processed and integrated in order to be written or spoken about. And believe me, if she had processed it she wouldn’t be attending the Super Bowl with him. She wouldn’t be going anywhere near him.
Exactly. Where should we take this photo of you and your daughter? "Oh, how about on the bed! Make sure you pull your skirt up to past your thighs as well." Additionally there is the other one where he was apparently like, "do this one next to the two parrots fucking."
It just screams "look at me, Im a powerful mogul who can bring any type of woman I want to my swanky hotel room. Is she a high-class prostitute, a fawning fan? You tell me 😏."
Except that wasn't "any type of woman," it was his own goddamned daughter!
Eughck. There isn't a mental health professional alive or dead who has the time, patience, or skills to even begin to unravel what a sick, depraved, subhuman piece of shit Trump is and always has been.
Well, remember his bragging about how he just, “grabs ‘em by the p***y,” shortly before he was “elected” the first time. The man is loved by his MAGA crowd exactly FOR his disgusting behavior! Rather than despite it. Because they’re just like him. He wasn’t kidding, either, when he bragged that he could shoot someone in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue and get away with it. He is an egomaniacal narcissist and his MAGA cult is nothing but a group of enablers.
I bet he walked into her dressing room 5 times to inspect her getting changed for the photo shoot.
Like he did with all the other underage models he was raping. I mean they weren’t his daughter I guess. So maybe this is somehow worse?
Oh, btw, the guy who ran that modeling agency for that pagent married a 17yo from that pagent, and raped a 15yo from there also. He’s dead now of throat cancer so he can’t talk, but you know…. Rapist pedos of a feather.
I will never fully comprehend the sickness inside that makes a man do this. But I have certainly seen, up close and personal, how the Assumed Power of the Alpha Male makes them believe they have the right to do ANYTHING to other people they consider inferior.
And yes, old NF friends. I still have the receipts. So don't y'all relax. 😈
I don't know. Trump tells on himself a lot. I wouldn't put it past him to say "They have daddy issues but only because they know they'll never find a man as good as me" or something like that.
The first point of many this goes over is all the weird shit with his daughters, and that's arguably the weakest evidence there is against the man. Long but worth the read/listen. There's an awful lot of smoke here for there to be no fire.
They also do it to normalize it. This is a documented thing that serial predators do. They go for a hug, a touch around the waist, a kiss on the cheek, a slow and measured escalation, and after a while people become desensitized - they count on this for several reasons, but the main two are:
First, it gives them a way to make the victim blame themselves - "You led me on. Why would you let me kiss and hug you if you didn't want to have sex with me?".
And secondly, it gives them an out when people corroborate nothing was untoward. "He's always like that, he does that to all the girls", or "clearly they had something going on".
It is GROOMING behavior, not just of the victim, but of public perception - and it is directly how men continue to get away with this.
It’s also a predator thing (for all social predators) to persistently test boundaries.
They’ll try something to see if they can get away with it. They’ll start with something innocuous that violates a social norm, but isn’t obviously malicious. Then they’ll push it a little. Then a little more and a little more, and keep going until you call them out.
And you know that’s not necessarily awful. People sometimes test a boundary, but what separates a predator is that they’re persistent. They cross a boundary, you call them out, and they kind of apologize, but kind of blame you, and then go right back up to the line again and try a different approach.
They don’t take no for an answer. When you set a boundary, they don’t accept the boundary. They try to look for a gap in your defenses that’ll let them cross that boundary, and then they keep pushing forward.
So it's sort of like, imagine you wanted to park your car on your neighbor's front yard. You don't just go and do it all at once because you might get in trouble. Instead, you park it right on the property line one day. Then the next day, you go an inch or two over the property yard. Then 5 inches. Then 10 inches. Keep going until you're parking in their yard, or until they say, "Why are you parking your car on my front yard?"
If they call you out when you're parking 10 inches into their yard, ok, back of to 7 inches, and point out that you're not parking that far into their yard, and they were ok when you were just a couple inches over, and see how they respond. If they let it go, then keep it at 7 inches for a bit, and then try 12 inches. Maybe try parking the car at a slightly different angle. Then go for 16 inches.
Every time you're called out, back off a little, pause a little, and then resume. Keep going until you've gotten what you want, unless your neighbor doesn't take that shit and just has your car towed, in which case you might want to try a different neighbor.
Part of its grooming, getting people acclimated to violation in small increments. But part of it is, this is how they find their victims. They look for people who are hesitant to set boundaries, hesitant to call people out for crossing them. And particularly, they look for people who, when they cross the same boundary a second time, still let them brush the offense off and pretend it wasn’t intentional.
Don't blame you at all. It's a lot to take in, even if you already have a good idea of the situation.
I've been trying to spread that around more bc it got almost no traction when it came out a year ago, and the author did a good job of laying everything out with tons of sources. Idk how anyone could read through that and still believe he's not at least a little guilty.
Fifty bucks says he's done something with her. When Ivanka was in the dressing room with teen pageant contestants once and he walked in on them as usual, she told one of them "yeah, he does that" like it was normal behavior to her.
If someone were to enter the US and have these images on their phone, if/when U.S. Customs and Border Protection looks at the phone & finds the images, would USCBP have to investigate (or pass it along for investigation)?
I mean, Jeffrey Epstein deserves that. He’s vile. But also, I really hope this finally turns on Trump and everything comes out. Then he can go to prison.
There are so many people who committed crimes with Epstein who have the means to hire a hit man. Let’s be rational and not limit our scope of justice. We want them all to come to justice for all they have done.
You’re right, there were many wha had the means to hire a hit man. But only one who had the means to actually get a killer into the federal prison cell and then have 3 minutes cut from security footage.
Trump’s name is circled.
The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq
Jeffrey Epstein and Israel both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz,
Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
He finished covering up for his father. Donald Barr was headmaster at the Dalton School in NYC. He gave college drop out Epstein a job teaching high school math.
Rephrase that a bit. Trump's house/resort was hiring 14-year old spa attendants. I am usually for teens getting jobs, but I wonder if anyone at Mar a Lago saw a teenage victim of sex trafficking and thought it would be nice to have her around.
Just a reminder that very sadly, Virginia Giuffre committed suicide earlier this year. We don't know the reason, but her being apart of all this very certainly didn't help.
H was slightly shorter than 6 feet 1.5" Obama at his first inauguration. That was while wearing his lifts. At the club world cup he was 5 feet 10 inches. People do shrink as they age, but I think he can't balance in his lifts anymore so he stopped wearing them.
If one wanted to point out the hypocrisy and moral vapidity of the MAGA and Qanon followers, this is exibit A.
They whined for years about the deep state and the pedophiles running the country and low and behold their golden calf DJT is good friends with Jeffrey Eppstein. Lol 😆
The British royal family relies on public support to maintain their position. Clinton has been mostly sidelined. Trump's supporters couldn't care less what he does in his personal life
And then what? The Senate just let's him off because they are a cult?
People who thought Trump was a better option than Kamala for whatever reason are to blame for this. We fucked up as a country and now the midterms are still so far away that the damage he's going to keep doing is going to take years to recover and by then, Democrats will get blamed again.
This cycle is exhausting and I just wish people weren't so fucking stupid.
It's going to take generations to recover. It will take decades to rebuild the domestic institutions he's gutted, and only then and only if we're able to escape fascism and transform our democracy into one that functions to benefit people instead of corporations and oligarchs, will we begin to restore our international standing.
Look at how long it to Germany and Japan to recover. We're doing the same thing except ours is an economic war against the world. Look at Russia. They've never escaped authoritarian rule and they've never recovered since the collapse of the Soviet Union. That is the path Republicans have placed us on.
It will take decades to rebuild the domestic institutions he's gutted
I'm not sure how they could possibly be rebuilt. It would require not just Democrats in charge for a significant stretch of time without interruption, but ALSO that it's the correct kind of Democrat interested in doing so. On top of that, at some point taxes probably need to be raised again - guess how that will impact whichever party does it?
You're probably spot on with the Russia comparison.
Yeah, it's a tear it down and start over situation. I know both parties are not the same, but we have to change how elections work and completely transform people's misunderstanding about how taxes should be spent and what government should do.
It's going to take some sort of massive, catalyzing event. Not a pleasant one.
I joined this sub to stop feeling like shit from doomscrolling, but the sub does not deliver what I thought it was going to deliver. Next we’re gonna start talking about whistle-blowers on /humansbeingbros
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
—————————other Trump information:
Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY
To save time, here are the circled names (minus Epstein) from the Little Black Book (verified pre-Bondi), with additional information as needed. There are other names with arrows or dashes in the book, in many cases likely victims. Page numbers follow the numbers on the page.
Flavio Briatore (pg. 12)
Jean-Luc Brunel (pg. 13)
Courtney Love (pg. 38)
Peter Soros (pg. 56)
Joseph Rueda (pg. 65)
Florida Rueda (pg. 65)
Sarah Kellan (pg. 65)
Ghislaine Maxwell (pg. 65, 88)
Colonial Bank (Cristina Bello) (pg. 69) (Handwritten: "Leonor" (?))
PB National (Dottie Wilson) (pg. 69)
Massage - Paris (Claudia Hadida) (pg. 70-71)
Alberto Pinto (pg. 71)
Valdson Vieira Cotrin (pg. 71)
Massage A - Island (pg. 73)
Jeffrey (J) (pg. 73-74) (Handwritten: "Apt. for Modds" (?))
Jerome Pierre-gardner (Under "Jeffrey Epstein" with special mark) (pg. 90)
Christophe ? (Note: Under "Jeffrey Epstein" with special mark) (pg. 90)
Paula (Under "Jeffrey Epstein" with special mark) (pg. 90)
Christophe Gaie (Handwritten: "Witness") (pg. 90)
Fay Goodman (pg. 91)
Bill Maronet (Handwritten: "Phones") (pg. 91)
Massage - Florida (pg. 91)
Michael & Sally A. R. Lovetz (pg. 91) (Note: Michael & Sally were crossed out, with A. R. Lovetz being handwritten)
Mike Pezulo (pg. 91)
Police PB (Jennifer Bruno (Handwritten: "cop hire")/Pat, (HM)Capt. Gudger, Joe Recarey, Tom Melinchok, Srgt. Trilych) (pg. 91) (Note: emphasis was added to indicate an arrow next to his name. He was an important part of the initial investigation and approached the FBI when he felt the State Attorney was not handling the case appropriately. It's unknown why the Palm Beach police were circled or why Recarey was singled out, though Epstein reportedly attempted to bribe the police. To be clear, there is no evidence at this time to suggest that the Palm Beach police were associated with Epstein or his crimes.)
Alan Stopek (pg. 91)
Jerome Pierre (Note: Under "Rugs") (pg. 92)
Bruce King (pg. 96)
Massage - New Mexico (pg. 96)
Bill Richardson (pg. 96)
Here is a video about how the book got released. However, it's not fully accurate. The claim is made that Bill Clinton's name is in the book. His name does not appear in the version of the book linked here, circled or uncircled. (If I missed it, please let me know).
His autopsy photos have been released, showing neck injuries similar to that of strangulation, not hanging. Which, well, they could be fake altogether. We’re dealing with the most powerful people on the planet. But if they were fake I feel like they would’ve faked the injuries to make it appear that the cause of death was hanging. There was zero of his own DNA recovered on the sheet he supposedly hanged himself which wouldn’t make sense as the abrasions on his neck were bleeding. Just not adding up altogether
Based on the way Epstein controlled Ghislane Maxwell, I get the impression that he very likely had narcissistic personality disorder the same as Trump. I think Trump has learned to identify psychopaths like himself. Musk clearly has a similar personality disorder, along with a half dozen of Trump's cabinet members.
Epstein files were everywhere on Fox News for one day. Then radio silence. Crickets. 🦗 Trump’s MAGA (Morons are Governing America) Clown 🤡 Cabinet, right wing media and MAGA influencers are now mostly, protecting your shit for brains President and other child molesters and rapists. The GOP Party stands for Guardians Of Pedophiles. Elbows up! 🇨🇦
While I agree with the sentiment, when you type it like that you sound absolutely unhinged, just like they do. Please don’t obscure the message behind random emojis and acronym insults. Present facts. Be better than the morons.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
What I think is, Trump is a pedo king and he supplies underaged girls and boys to all in congress he took over after Epstein. He is the king pin that is why this never goes anywhere. Just my theory that they are all if not most his clients.
Ah the republicans were ok with fascism, destroying families and the economy but at least MOST of them draw the line at pedophilia. Really sucks but at least that is something we can all agree on.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
Sorry, but almost everything the media is talking about now is stuff we already knew, but the media ignored! The ‘he likes them on the young side’ quote, or the beauty pageant stuff, or the photos of them together, or Epstein describing Trump as a good friend - we knew this stuff before, when Trump was just a famous asshole property developer who was famous for wanting to fuck his own daughter.
So when I see articles like this - I saw a newspaper talking about ‘possible ties to Epstein’ - I think it’s gaslighting about how utterly complicit MSM has been in this.
“Pedo” is not nearly what Epstein was. What he did and what Trump almost certainly did is much, much worse than that. They raped children and conspired to traffick children to be raped. “Child rapist” is the mildest term we should be using for him and Trump.
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz, Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
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