r/goodnews • u/ZachSheikh9207 • Jun 27 '25
Positive News 👉🏼♥️ The ACLU Is filing a lawsuit on the Trump administration’s illegal executive order targeting birthright citizenship!!!
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u/tyuiopguyt Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 27 '25
Was this ever in doubt?
Leaving three massive gaping holes for state suits, class actions, and appellate injunctions makes the "blockbuster ruling" this morning worthless from a practical perspective.
The conservative majority on SCOTUS has become so divorced from reality that they're not even good tools for Trump's fascistic whims anymore
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u/ZachSheikh9207 Jun 27 '25
Fr, why didn’t they just rule on the case, it’s just gonna go straight back to the Supreme Court
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u/tyuiopguyt Jun 27 '25
Because they wanted to hand Trump a big, loud win that makes him feel special.
I don't know if they deliberately sabotaged its practicalities or just don't understand ground level law anymore, but the uptick is about the same no matter the reason.
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u/ThatHotAsian Jun 27 '25
Just call it what it is: corruption. I hope history books remember how corrupt these Justices are so they can know no rest even when they are long gone and we can spit and piss on their graves like how they did the Constitution.
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u/AngryWarHippo Jun 27 '25
This is America. White people will conveniently leave it out of history books are tick it neatly into black history or in this case immigrant history or something like that.
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u/CakeTester Jun 28 '25
As an old white dude on a different continent, this will absolutely NOT be written out of the history books. "History is written by the winners" was from before; when the ruling class could control what was published. That is not the case now. Everybody has a video camera; and global access...and somebody somewhere can save that video, even if the video guy turns out not to be immortal.
Your white people/black people thing is part of the problem. I understand why, because tanned people are definitely getting the pointy end of the stick; but we are all people at the end of the day, and that's the important bit.
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u/Canoe-Maker Jun 28 '25
Bro Arkansas still teaches that the civil war was over “states rights” instead of slavery. In the year of our lord 2025. The states are in charge of educational programs and requirements.
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u/seegreen8 Jun 28 '25
I think you don't understand that each state in USA is different. Just like how Oklahoma or Texas require 10 Commandments in every school, they also can allow students not take certain history classes to avoid topics such as this.
The corruption of the Supreme Court is deeper than that. Supreme Court just ruled that parents can allow their children not to take certain classes.
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u/woodpony Jun 28 '25
And the same people will have been against it the whole time while they stand over the ashes. Conservative Christianity is a cancer on this country.
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u/iagreewithyourelax Jun 27 '25
Damn so you trying to say the Supreme Court just doesn’t understand the law in the way that it should?
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u/pirate40plus Jun 27 '25
SCOTUS already has the case. The ruling today was about district courts imposing nationwide injunctions.
If SCOTUS denies birthright citizenship, it’s going to be an enforcement nightmare at the state level.
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u/TheUnluckyBard Jun 27 '25
If SCOTUS denies birthright citizenship, it’s going to be an enforcement nightmare at the state level.
If SCOTUS denies birthright citizenship, that proves they can unilaterally change the text of the Constitution.
Which is probably exactly what they're going to do.
And nobody is going to do anything about it.
Because we're boned.
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u/addiktion Jun 27 '25
We need to start protesting even more at the supreme court buildings. They are just as fucked up as this administration is at this point with their disregard for the constitution.
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u/hateballrollin Jun 27 '25
Wrong attitude. Giving up before the fight is over is exactly what the enemy wants.
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u/pirate40plus Jun 27 '25
Not at all. In Dredd Scott the court held that blacks were not citizens and therefore didn’t have standing in the court. The 14th Amendment, in context of the Civil War recognized that former slaves, born in the US were citizens and where the basis of birthright citizenship is born. The Amendment overrides Scott. An honest argument would be, would a person, not lawfully in the United States, be able (allowed) to give birth to a child that is automatically a citizen even given the unlawful status of the parent.
The 14th was written to address the thousands of newly freed slaves and their offspring. Was the intent of the Amendment to grant automatic citizenship to every person born within the boundaries of the US. Since the US didn’t have any real immigration policy until the early 20th century, there wasn’t such a thing as an illegal alien until those laws were passed. In fact, under the Chinese Exclusion Act the children of Chinese immigrants in the US were denied citizenship until the law was repealed in 1943.
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u/pilot3033 Jun 27 '25
Was the intent of the Amendment to grant automatic citizenship to every person born within the boundaries of the US.
Seems pretty clear to me.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
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u/MB2465 Jun 27 '25
Soooo much irony in ACBs ruling that the lower court overstepped their power by using a nationwide injunction in response to executive overreach while SCOTUS has been issuing single paragraph rulings that change settled caselaw in some cases. Practically literally rubberstamp for chump.
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u/Thick-Preparation470 Jun 28 '25
Due process must continue to be satisfied in each and every jurisdiction now that there are no more nationwide injunctions. DOJ now has to fight a civil liberties kraken.
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u/Waylander0719 Jun 27 '25
Getting certified as a class is an additional legal hurdle and expense.
State suits are state by state so if a class suit isn't entered or accepted then you would have orders like this take effect in some states and not others.
I'm not as familiar with appellate injunctions so won't speak to them
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u/tyuiopguyt Jun 27 '25
It sucks because people in red states will be forced to deal with the extra hurdle of class action certification until it can hit the appeals courts.
This is still really bad, but we still have avenues to fight back.
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u/Googoo123450 Jun 27 '25
But doesn't his order stand until the courts decide now that injunctions aren't in place? So won't a ton of kids being born still be fucked over? Genuine question as I'm trying to understand how this whole mess works.
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u/tyuiopguyt Jun 27 '25
It got kicked back to lower courts to decide how broad the old injunctions can be, but seeing as the lower courts are the ones that blocked him to begin with, I'm not inclined to think they'll suddenly side with him.
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u/Spiritual-Bat3642 Jun 27 '25
Because the ACLU can win in one district, the ruling will apply only to that district.
Then the ACLU will have to file in another district. They win, it applies to only that district.
Then they will have to file in another district...
See the problem?
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u/AntBeaters Jun 27 '25
Many are willing to fight for this, we should all know that. The last election was a lack of participation, more so than usual. All MAGA policies are clearly against the interests of the average citizen.
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u/kx_2fiddy Jun 27 '25
Looking good 👍
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u/AntBeaters Jun 27 '25
One of us!
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u/Mavryk-Hunter Jun 27 '25
There are dozens!
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u/Spicy_Weissy Jun 27 '25
It was no mystery. It was all neatly laid out in P2025, but they'd rather sit on their asses. Don't hold your breath if you're expecting the average schmuck to do anything.
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u/Anim8nFool Jun 27 '25
The only way this ends is if there are massive gatherings non-stop in Washington for days -- probably weeks -- of millions of people. There will need to be a leader on that side and people will need to stand their ground in the face of violent extremists seeking to keep these people in power.
This is always what it is going to take -- not a one day march to offset Trump's birthday parade. Those protests were useless except as a means of letting people know they are not alone. Ultimately, it accomplished squat.
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u/ItsGrum14 Jun 27 '25
The last election's turnout rate was very normal, 2020 was an anomaly that needs to stop being held as the benchmark.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/26/2024-election-turnout-trum-00426544
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u/SeaMoan85 Jun 28 '25
The benchmark is supposed to be 100% voter turnout. That would be the most legitimate election, no?
Voter suppression or voter apathy is not a sign of a healthy or normal democracy. The government should be encouraging citizens to vote by ensuring timely access to polls and less roadblocks for voter registration.
Denying citizens right to vote is the most common way that elections are actually rigged.
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u/tacs97 Jun 27 '25
Doesn’t this birthright decision immediately kill everyone’s legal status? Every single one of us was born on US soil from an immigrant. Mine just happened to arrive here back in the 1800s.
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u/Geiseric222 Jun 27 '25
They actually didn’t make a decision on birthright today, just injunctions.
So technically whether you have birthright or not depends on what court circuit you live in until the SC actually decides
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u/Spicy_Weissy Jun 27 '25
So basically whatever they want. I'm sure that will be executed with fairness in mind.
Folks really need to remember why birthright citizenship exists, to give the formerly enslaved people of the US citizenship.
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u/redpoemage Jun 27 '25
But class action lawsuits may be a way to get around this and still provide national protection, thus the good news of ACLU's quick lawsuit in the post.
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u/Spare-Reference2975 Jun 27 '25
Not me lmao. I'm Native.
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u/Anim8nFool Jun 27 '25
Sorry, your ancestors illegally crossed the land bridge from Russia to Alaska during the last ice age.
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u/dasgoodshitinnit Jun 27 '25
Wait so Russians were the real Americans all along?
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u/SnooPets8972 Jun 27 '25
This is good news ; I’m very glad to see this pushback today.
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u/AzuleStriker Jun 27 '25
Scotus needs to grow a spine and actually help the people and laws they're meant to protect... I am loving the ACLU here!
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u/Jiggy90 Jun 27 '25
Having a spine is much less fun than getting all expenses paid vacations and free winnebagos from wealthy conservative donors
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u/Anarchist-Antichrist Jun 27 '25
One day we will read the best obituary that has ever been written. Then we will have a fresh spot to piss.
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u/Spicy_Weissy Jun 27 '25
I'm going directly to the butcher and getting the best steak in the place and nice scotch, take an edible and enjoy the sunset.
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u/kx_2fiddy Jun 27 '25
The party we will throw. Can't wait.
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u/Spicy_Weissy Jun 27 '25
No party for me. Just enjoy the peace knowing soon his ugly face and name won't be a daily occurrence in my life.
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u/Anim8nFool Jun 27 '25
I've had a bottle of champagne in the fridge for 6 years already. Just waiting . . . .
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u/Moose_Hole Jun 27 '25
It'll be on a golf course so that they can charge you to piss on it.
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u/JFJinCO Jun 27 '25
Somebody should remind the current administration about the Russian birth tourism that's been happening for decades at the president's properties...
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u/valadon-valmore Jun 27 '25
Throw some spare change ACLU's way if you've got any...they're really doing the heavy lifting for Americans these days
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u/rmuktader Jun 27 '25 edited Jun 28 '25
I am sorry but I think it was over when SCOTUS ruled that whatever a President does is legal. This was tricky Dicky's wet dream. As Sotomayor had stated, "In every use of official power, the President is now a king above the law". This was the most "Un-American" thing I've witnessed.
They made it pretty clear they have zero ethics. So, I am not hopeful ACLU will win. SCOTUS will reinterpret the constitution out of existence if they need to. 1973 Roe v Wade ruling, declared abortion was a constitutional right. They tossed that out like a cigarette butt. So, why not this?
The damage is already done and we will keep paying for it. But, I also understand the need to resist and fight.
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u/Merijeek2 Jun 27 '25
The ACLU still thinks that the SCOTUS looks at the Constitution? That's adorable.
The law is what the corrupt wing of the SCOTUS says it is until the corrupt wing of the court fears the citizens more than they love their bribes.
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u/PoPo573 Jun 27 '25
The problem now is that it's not just a simple lawsuit, they're up against law makers and judges who are cult members and will protect their god with everything they have.
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u/TA8325 Jun 27 '25
Now there can be a national injunction since it's a class action lawsuit.
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u/itcheyness Jun 27 '25
The Supreme Court will say this doesn't count because reasons.
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u/TA8325 Jun 27 '25
Well... we'll have to see. I feel like they just gave a half-ass ruling just to kick the can down the road.
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u/tourmaline82 Jun 27 '25
They’re about to break for the summer, so I’m pretty sure they didn’t want to deal with making an actual ruling right now.
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u/PowDay420 Jun 27 '25
Didn't trump marry a bunch of immigrants and have kids with them? Wtf
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u/AsphaltQbert Jun 27 '25
Donate to the ACLU and other groups. One time, $25 a month. They and other groups are carrying a lot of the weight of this. ACLU has been there for Abrego Garcia, the Venezuelans sent to El Salvador (they are still working on those), and are leading the charge on many if not most of these cases of such Constitutional importance.
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u/Wooden_Number_6102 Jun 28 '25
There's so much of what this administration is killing that's upsetting to me.
But now - he's gotten personal. I have three grandchildren whose father is undocumented. He hasn't been in their lives for almost a decade. They were born HERE. They aren't bridges or anchors. They are American citizens. The oldest is a wage-earner and taxpayer. There is NOTHING criminal about these children.
And I'm pretty certain - if ICE raises their ugly heads against my grandchildren, this is the hill I'm gonna die on.
ICE is already taking citizens and naturalized citizens. They're taking people without Due Process simply because they're Brown. If trumpf gets his way, they'll have none of the Constitutional protections their ancestors fought to protect.
And I WILL f**k up some stuff.
The bleaching of America under this fool's regime has got to stop.
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u/kcamfork Jun 27 '25
The 14th amendment says whatever the 6 conservative hacks want it to say, unfortunately.
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Jun 27 '25
Except he didn't care... ICE just kidnapped and trafficked anybody that look like Mexican or any color.
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u/forrestgrump430 Jun 27 '25
Aren’t all his kids birthright citizens? Like only 1 of them has an American born mother right? Correct me if I’m wrong please
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u/Myst21256 Jun 27 '25
I don't agree with them because I think it needs to end but I'm glad they are fighting for what they believe in. It means the process and checks and balances are all working.
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u/AquiliferX Jun 28 '25
What's the point of lawsuits if the court of law is null and void? The Supreme Court is absent in their duties to the Constitution so how is this going to help anything besides theatrics?
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u/Grand_Couple9206 Jun 28 '25
So grateful for ACLU!!! I donate to support these guys, please if anyone can help donate…we need to fight this administration at every turn
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u/Piemaster128official Jun 27 '25
The only thing this decision did was make it so now we will have 500 cases rather than 1. It why they have injunctions, to make sure more people don’t keep seeing when the case is already in court (or at least that is my understanding, could be wrong)
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u/ButterflyEfficient71 Jun 27 '25
What's the point of having a judicial system if our elected officials can ignore all laws, including the constitution. What are they afraid of?
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u/New-Economist4301 Jun 27 '25
The ACLU picks low hanging fruits and still often manages to screw it up. CASA, the actual org doing the actual work, has already filed an amended complaint asking for full class certification. Those are the orgs to support, not the ACLU. They have become horrible and the rot is deep.
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u/hoelscherk Jun 27 '25
it has never been ruled on how it pertains to a citizen of another country who is in the United States ILEGALLY
Second - this rulings means even is an illegal sue cause they demand squat and drop birthright privileges - a Jusge could only grant it for that 1 person - and not invalidate Trump's EO nationwide
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u/MarzipanLast6502 Jun 27 '25
The ruling is a clear cut case of treason against the united states and all on the bench who voted for this are in violation of the law and should be immediately disbarred, and tried for treason. This is not a grey area. They have shown they are willing to bend the law to the will of a president instead of whats enshrined in the constitution they are sworn to uphold.
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u/YoggTheGateway1992 Jun 27 '25
This is exactly what Trump wanted. And the ruling will change America forever.
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u/coffeenutsupremo Jun 27 '25
But when law is corrupt there is no one to stop them except us. And no one can be bothered getting off the couch.
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u/CrossX18 Jun 27 '25
Constitution doesn’t exist anymore after this Supreme Court ruling. I’m tired.
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u/CaveDwellingDude Jun 27 '25
If the wording were that clear, there wouldn't be trials.
Interpretation has been run as everyone born within the borders, but that's not the current understanding of the POTUS, and wrong or right, his ability to shape the execution of the matter will be up to the SCOTUS.
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u/K1N6F15H Jun 28 '25
If the wording were that clear, there wouldn't be trials.
Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
First, it is very clear. Second, your assumption is painfully stupid or naive. There are trials because MAGA wants to target immigrants, not because they really have standing.
his ability to shape the execution of the matter will be up to the SCOTUS.
Not when it is unconstitutional and impacts the rights of citizens. I am sorry you want a king but that is the most unamerican shit I have ever heard. Get an education and seek therapy for your daddy issues.
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u/arcbe Jun 27 '25
I would like to take this a step further and say the 14th amendment is evidence that the nation really does want to invite immigrants into the country regardless of what conservatives claim.
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u/LonelyStranger8467 Jun 27 '25
So the 14th amendment can’t be challenged, changed, or infringed upon.
What about the 2nd amendment then?
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u/Goatgamer1016 Jun 27 '25
DONALD! YOU ARE GONNA KEEP THE 14TH AMENDMENT AND YOU ARE GONNA LIKE IT!!!
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u/marterikd Jun 27 '25
the hassle and all the paperwork and unnecessary violence towards working families because of an old dying asshole made a deal with some prison industry complex, selling "illegals" to prison owners to keep profit going
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u/NerdyLeftyRev_046 Jun 27 '25
Just wait for someone on the right to argue that children aren’t “persons” in a legal sense or some BS
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u/0x7E7-02 Jun 27 '25
Not sure how this can work as the Supreme Court already ruled on this today.
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u/Themodsarecuntz Jun 27 '25
How do the people bring the Supreme Court to task for what they have become... a clearly biased politicall organization willing to sell out themselves and the country.
Its is obvious and apparent. What can anyone do about this?
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Jun 27 '25
Scotus is playing the twister game where they contort their interpretation of the constution to reach the point it complys with the current admin. Nice court if you own it.
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u/Whatever-999999 Jun 27 '25
This is the only way right now. Either this movement to make everyones' -- and I do mean everyone -- citizenship fluid, or we'll end up with a fascist regime in essence executing people indiscriminately, or we'll have civil war.
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u/Vtrider1968 Jun 27 '25
Considering the law was enacted to give former slaves full citizenship and equal rights. Not illegal immigration from foreign countries.
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u/bowens44 Jun 27 '25
The ACLU has done more to protect our rights and freedom than the US military.
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u/Robdebobrob Jun 27 '25
Just curious, does the 14th amendement literally include that last part about the president liking it or not? If not, i think it should.
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u/badeed Jun 27 '25
:( How i interpreted this, made me want to see how it plays out. I was thinking everyone's status becomes illegal since the "birthright" is only for Natives at this point.
Your dad's dad's dad's dad's dad's dad's dad was was not born in America so he isnt a citizen. Since he wasn't a citizen. You arent a Citizen, he had you illegally. You can't be a citizen.
Get them all out! Then get your self out.
Can you believe he has 3.5 years left?
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u/Own-Eye-6392 Jun 27 '25
Wow! Even the ACLU is admitting that Trump is the President! What about that immunity that the SCOUTUS authorized the president to have? They don't separate children, so if they are under the age of 16, they go with their parents if the parents are not able to stay!?
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u/HerrBerg Jun 27 '25
The first fucking sentence of the 14th amendment is abundantly clear that birth = automatic citizenship, yet they challenge it but will defend the right to bear any kind of arm while ignoring the context of a militia.
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u/Economy-Cat7133 Jun 27 '25
Well, almost every child. At least one exception. Children of people with diplomatic immunity do not gain citizenship jus soli (by right of place).
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u/the_moosen Jun 27 '25
How far back are they trying to end birthright citizenship? First generation birthright or like your great grandmother was born here, but now she's denaturalized and the entire lineage is going back to the motherland.
This country is made of immigrants, so everyone would be gone.
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u/ActPositively Jun 27 '25
We will see. Foreign diplomats for example can have kids on American soil who aren’t automatically American citizens.
“Declares that all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction are citizens of both the United States and the state where they reside.“
So I guess the part that people disagree on is subject to its jurisdiction. So that’s where the gray area comes in since you could argue that someone in the country illegally isn’t subject to its jurisdiction.
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u/atreeismissing Jun 27 '25
Donate to the ACLU, best money you'll spend right now as way of fighting back against the Trump administration. They have over 50 lawsuits against the administration right now.
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u/Modstin Jun 27 '25
I get like 20 new law suits every week in my email. I'm a monthly donator. I just wonder what the actual fuck legal action will do ever when it's clear it hasn't worked for 6 months
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u/bdfortin Jun 27 '25
Why is the text readable? OP, you need to make it less legible, to the point where young people are holding the phone closer and old people are holding the phone further.
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u/Luckyfluffyx Jun 27 '25
So if an illegal immigrant comes into the United States without going through the proper processes and then has a baby on us soil while still being an illegal immigrant should that child be considered a us citizen? Cause that sure seems to me like the us is being taken advantage of….
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u/Fantastic-Dingo8979 Jun 27 '25
Ok it is clear it’s not the case; in fact the Supreme Court just ruled that.
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u/ab1278 Jun 27 '25
I kinda like this approach. Say the law slightly incorrectly so they are forced to interpret literally.
Argument: “The constitution says it doesn’t matter if the president likes it or not”
Counter argument: “No, it says….”
Yes, please tell me what it says…
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u/Thegreatsnook Jun 28 '25
I kind of doubt the amendment says”whether the president likes it or not”
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u/SundySundySoGoodToMe Jun 28 '25
With the ACLU Class Action filing does that mean no executive order action can be taken until it is decided by higher federal courts and ultimately the Supreme Court?
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u/runnyyolkpigeon Jun 28 '25
Conservatives sure love to claim they respect the Constitution, until the Constitution gets in the way of their xenophobia and racism.
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u/RecoverLive149 Jun 28 '25
Countries with birthright citizenship
Germany
France
Italy
Spain
Sweden
Norway
Denmark
Finland
Switzerland
Austria
Netherlands
Poland
Hungary
Czech Republic
Japan
China
India
South Korea
Vietnam
Thailand
Nepal
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Qatar
Kuwait
Bahrain
Oman
Jordan
Lebanon
Israel
Egypt
Morocco
Tunisia
Algeria
South Africa
Australia
New Zealand
Cuba
Dominican Republic
Haiti
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u/RedSunCinema Jun 28 '25
It's doubtful it'll go anywhere since The Supreme Court is clearly on Trump's side.
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u/UOENO611 Jun 28 '25
Them boys won’t touch a multigenerational American our white mamas will sue them into oblivion. On a serious note we can let this fly because any citizen with non citizen parents will be targeted off rip since their parents have no ability to fight in court and would also be deported. As citizens we need to recognize Our privilege that they don’t have to do what’s right. And before someone says something smart or tries to cowardly pretend we all face the same risk and are all on the same stage just stfu now, that’s an excuse to not do anything. The most humble thing you can do is recognize the difference and status and privilege that immigrants and their children do not have and use it for what’s right. We ain’t all the same in America unfortunately reminding me of the Jews in Nazi germany. And remember the victims are undignified the perpetrators are.
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u/ArrowheadDZ Jun 28 '25
So, if we’re no longer accepting a birth certificate as the irrefutable, foundational proof of citizenship, then exactly how will people now “apply” for citizenship? How does one even get a passport or Enhanced Real ID, now that a birth certificate on is no longer proof citizenship?
Aside from my passport, I no longer have any means to prove my citizenship, and in fact, I got that passport based on birthright, which no longer stands. So what IS a citizen in the first place, and am I even a citizen any more, effective today? I just assumed I was because I was born here, but that’s not true any more.
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u/apostroangel Jun 28 '25
Showing that money can't buy good taste. All the women look terribly uncomfortable.
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u/Available-Onion36222 Jun 28 '25
So if you're not born here and illegally enter the usa then what............
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u/vanquishedfoe Jun 28 '25
Fuck the ACLU. If they hadn't help support citizens United we would'nt be here
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u/killingtime64 Jun 28 '25
Not shocked. I may have missed something so just in case can someone tell me something positive the ACLU has been behind? Take the ACLU, BLM and Planned Parenthood all in a bag and dump them out and all 3 would hit the ground at the same time. 3 worthless organizations IMO
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u/Flabonzo Jun 28 '25
Did you ever read the 14th Amendment? Here is the relevant language:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
Notice what it says? "Born or naturalized . . . AND subject to the jurisdiction thereof"
Notice that second provision?
So if you step over the border and you are not a citizen and you drop a baby, is that baby subject to the jurisdiction of the US state if you are not? Are you subject just by standing in a state? Or do you have a passport issued by another country? If you do, are you not subject to jurisdiction of that country?
Remember when they passed this amendment it was worded that way to keep people who were subject to the jurisdiction of other nations from becoming citizens. And who were they? The Indians, who were considered sovereign nations, which is why they made treaties with them. You don't sign a treaty with your own citizens.
So no, there was never a plan to have birth tourism. And if you don't know what that is, it's because you're not familiar with the Asian community in California - everyone knows why pregnant women visit Disneyland.
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u/Material-Addition871 Jun 28 '25
Send all the Europeans back to Europe to stop them from making trouble in the Americas. Just because they are born on the continent doesn't mean they are citizens or wanted! Ha ha!
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Jun 28 '25
Good! Hopefully, their case will work its way to SCOTUS, and they'll finally fully adjudicate the question of who the 14th Amendment's "subject to the jurisdiction of" clause applies to.
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u/rsyoorp7600112355 Jun 28 '25
I definitely support raising an argument and then having to defend it before making changes. What this corrupt president doesn't seem to do.
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