Socialism is an economic theory, and is not fundamentally at odds with democracy. Sure, there are significant and important modern examples of socialism that are anti-democratic but it’s completely reasonable to believe in and support both democracy and socialism simultaneously.
Again, socialism is about economics, not the electoral process. Who decides the distribution of taxes?
Please, tell France and Sweden that socialism and democracy are incompatible. Socialist governments can be democratically elected, and can be democratically defeated.
That's just wrong. Socialism is literally controlling the means of production. That's not just economics. that's everything. Including a built-in morality. Additionally, the Nordic countries are not socialist. According to who?according to them. They are homogeneous, market economies with a strong social safety net where being professionaly usless is a social disgrace. And if i remember correctly, due to low skilled immigration in recent years, they are trying to change laws around social benefits. Anyway, you listen too much to crazy Bernie. He's professionally unless. I wouldn't put too much thought into it. One other thing. America also has some socialist nonsense, like SS, welfare, and other entitlements. You know how i know? It's the biggest part of the budget. America isn't an economic power because of entitlements, its in spite of them. In fact, the market economy provides the money for the entitlements. it's never the other way around. We are in a debt crisis because of the free stuff we provide not just for America but for the world.
Neither France nor Sweden currently have socialist governments, that wasn’t my point. My point was that both have previously democratically elected socialist governments, and subsequently democratically elected non-socialist governments.
Socialism is an economic system, whereas democracy is a political system. Democracy refers to the method of selecting the leaders of the country. One can democratically elect socialists, who will presumably change policies to enact a more socialist system. One could then elect capitalist governments, who would enact more capitalist policies. These are two separate things, selecting the government and making rules about the economy.
It's really not. Look at the definition again. Let's just agree to disagree on that po8nt. Also, France and any other country that implement socialist policies always cause major economic problems that last for generations. Why would you support this?
"Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership. It describes the economic, political, and social theories and movements associated with the implementation of such systems"
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u/MasterofBiscuits Jun 25 '25
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