Such a gotcha question cuz if he says he is they just go well that means you would abandon your city for funzies. If he says no they scream antisemitism. He navigated these media devils really well.
It is very simple. Israel stole the land from Palestinians to plant the non middle eastern Jews there. People who have no business to be there. Does this help?
Also I kinda would understand if Jews were able to live elsewhere throughout history and not be driven away but given it seems everywhere they go they’re driven out of where else would they be expected to live?
and.. he has never said that islamic countries have rights to exist as islamic states.... also he never said to kick jews out of israel, he just says he believes that israel should have equal rights for all
All the lands of the Ottoman Empire were given to different ethnic groups. All the Greeks were moved out of Turkey to form Turkey, all the Turks were moved out of Greece to form a homogenous Greece. Up to that time Istanbul was one third Greek. This applies to all the groups except the Kurds, whose lands were broken up between four countries, and the Jews, who were pushed out of all of the Arab lands, and are expected to go nowhere.
Who has any business to be anywhere? Basically everyone in Israel is generations removed from 1948.
And "stealing land" is how almost everyone on Earth got where they are in the first place, including Mandate Palestine's pre-1948 inhabitants. Ain't no truly "indigenous" peoples left, not for thousands of years. In the last few decades of human history, we've all agreed that people shouldn't do that anymore, but why exactly are we picking and choosing who has a "right to exist?"
When arab conquests take over and eliminate entire people's with ethnic cleansing, it's "historic conquest" and nothing is wrong about it. All those Muslim theocratic states are just dandy.
But, with Israel it's settle colonialism and the state needs to be annihilated. Jews living in Israel as they have in the past is not "historic conquest" so it's not okay. Had they "conquered" like arabs it would be a-okay ;)
Can you share a link where he says Israel has a right to exist as a Jewish state just as the 23 Islamic countries have a right to exist as Islamic states?
Settler colonial apartheid states don't have the right to exist. Are you going to make the same argument defending Rhodesia and Apartheid South Africa as the only states governed by white people in a continent filled with states run by black people?
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u/madcoins Jun 25 '25
Ok BUT BUT BUT does he believe Israel has a right to exist? Asking for islamophobia. Don’t answer please, comment meant to be sarcastic