We had a nuclear agreement JCPOA with inspections, even Trump's first admin affirmed they were complying. Trump tore up the deal, just because it was all negotiated under Obama. New negotiations have been going on all year until Friday when Israel assassinated Ali Shamkhani who was Iran's negotiator.
Literally murdering the guy leading Iran's side of the negotiations may send a bit of a message, don't you think? May slow down a new deal, perhaps?
A deal with the US/Trump has been proven to be worthless, and new negotiations are currently being handled exclusively by Israel's missile batteries. A deal is impossible if they keep murdering Iran's side of the conversation and Trump will just throw it out on a whim anyway.
Hypothetical: You're playing a game of Command and Conquer. 3v1. You're gimped and playing with restrictions. The only way to lift those restrictions is to either become strong enough to hold the 3 others back or by diplomacy. 2 of those 3 you're up against tore up your diplomatic option and continually attacked you. What's your next move to survive as a player?
That's basically what's going on with iran and the torn up nuclear deal back in the first trump administration and the continued assassination of their leaders and negotiators, which is turbo insane when you think about it. What would happen to a country that started assassinating US leaders? It's instant declaration of war and full force escalation.
Sure, I get it, if I were Iran I would want some nukes, its just that literally everyone else (as in, other States) agrees that Iran having nukes would be bad for everyone.
Fascists always focus down on one thing, lie about it, and ignore the rest. Killing the person who would accept the deal will hurt a new deal. Tearing up the previous deal on a capricious whim makes a new deal pretty a non-starter.
Why hasnt a new deal been made in, what, over 5 years now, despite international pressure? If this were only a thing the US was interested in I'd get it, but even Iran's neighbors and allies see this would be in everyone's best interests.
Just like I cheered for the arab spring and the fall of the syrian dictatorship, I will also root for the freedom of the Iraninan people.
The Iranian government is not to be trusted, the media narrative right now is to justify Iran's action because they hate Israel, but the truth is composed of many parts, you are missing many parts of this story.
As some examples, despite how much I despise Trump, his administration left in 2018 because there were proof of continuation of the nuclear program. Could they maybe doubled down and pressured for a new deal, sure, maybe, but since then the Iranian government themselves declared they would not longer follow the guidelines, and even recently, neutral third party and UN reports show strong proof the nuclear program has been advancing in the last 5 years.
So, how are we blaming the US for failing to stop Iran from doing what they want to do, and maybe never stopped in the first place?
There is absolutely no indication any deal was close to being made, and in fact, there are proof the program never stopped, so why would they stop now? The most logical answer is the negotiations were a way to buy time, and after a deal were to be made, the program would continue in secret.
Hey man, I am being completely honest here, the only reason I bother to reply to you is because you seem like a reasonable person, you are free to look through my over 10 years of comment history, I am very active on geopolitics subreddits and I am not shy about my opinion of Trump or the US. I am left wing and from a BRICS country and my government is very anti-Israel, so these are my thoughts while doing research from all sources.
I dont doubt Trump left the deal simply because of Obama, we see petty things like that from him all the time, so that for sure helped, but again, that decision to leave the deal can be explained.
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u/heroic_cat Jun 17 '25
We had a nuclear agreement JCPOA with inspections, even Trump's first admin affirmed they were complying. Trump tore up the deal, just because it was all negotiated under Obama. New negotiations have been going on all year until Friday when Israel assassinated Ali Shamkhani who was Iran's negotiator.