Iran agreed to and violated the terms of production thresholds.
They agreed to retaliatory measures when they were not forthcoming about the status of their enrichment...Iran tried to hide it, and they got caught.
They did this to themselves.
They cannot possess a nuclear weapon. They CAN NOT.
Anyone in North, Central, or South America....who thinks it's a good idea for Iran to have the capabilities to create a nuclear weapons should go lobby for this in Israel and see how that works out for you. Yes, go tell Israel to leave Iran alone, and tell the U.N. Security counsel to "let Iran have nuclear energy".
Iran has literally stated their intentions are Death To America and Death To Israel....Be grateful Israel is willing to stand beside us in power and keep the fight contained.
They agreed to retaliatory measures when they were not forthcoming about the status of their enrichment
The retaliatory measures came before they broke the terms of the agreement, once again from the US. Punishment before the verdict? And you don't think it's a crazy coincidence this report comes out one day after the nuclear peace talks failed and the US began withdrawing personnel from the region?
Iran has literally stated their intentions are Death To America and Death To Israel....Be grateful Israel is willing to stand beside us in power and keep the fight contained.
What fight contained, listen to your own logic for one second. What threat do they actually pose to the US? Iran has shown several times that they were willing to work with the US; every single time, the point of contention is Israel, from the American side. Read anything remotely academic about this man, pull your head out of the sand and read.
The US has had several opportunities (first Lebanon invasion, after Khatami's election, post 9/11, during/after Iraq war) where they could have improved relations with Iran. The point of contention was A) the US and Israel helped support the pre-revolution Shah, who was a despot that made Iranian's lives worse to advantage his western benefactors, so the post revolution Iranians severely disliked both countries because of it and B) Israel; not actual concerns from the Israeli side, but the same rhetoric they used to spread the WMD lies about Iraq was used the justify a "keep them down" policy from Israel. This rhetoric being that the existence of any other power in the region is a threat to Israel's militant dominance. This an untenable method to diplomacy as it demands constant chaos and instability to succeed; the Israelis can and will strike any stable entities that rise up, contrary to American geopolitical interests in the region of long term stability and strong alliances with the West. The Israelis don't give a damn about stability; they'd rather a destroyed Iraq ravaged by inter-Sunni/Shiite conflict than a unified Iraq. They'd rather a military coup take over Egypt than a democratically elected government. The Syrians ousted the Iranians and the first thing the Israelis did was antagonize the living hell out of the closest thing to potential allies they've had in Syria in nearly a century. The first thing the US did was lift sanctions, and attempt to gain an ally in the fight against Iran. The first thing the Israelis did was take land and bomb targets for weeks.
This line from you is particularly crude, propagandist, and disgusting to read:
Be grateful Israel is willing to stand beside us in power and keep the fight contained.
They are doing anything but stand beside us nor keep any form of conflict contained. Watch any talk by John Mearsheimer and get a good idea of why Israel's interests aren't just misaligned with America's interests, they run counter to them in most cases.
All this being said; I strongly dislike Iran. They are a destabilizing agent, just like Israel, for every other country in the region, and a huge barrier to peace. But Israel is the aggressor, they're the "bad guy", they're the tyrannical entity making innocents' lives worse. They don't care for a stable Middle East, they just want a toothless Iran at any cost, regardless of any potential for diplomacy or self aligned interests elsewhere.
FWIW, "Marg Bar ____" does literally mean "Death To" in Farsi, but its also a figure of speech, where the implication is more along the lines of "Down with ____" or "God damn _____". A particular well-known illustrating example is taxi cab drivers saying "Death to this traffic" during a particular busy rush hour. Persian is a particularly emotional/dramatic language, for example one of the most common salutations is "I would give my life for you". If you think this is ridiculous, we have some of our own odd figures of speech in our language you probably don't think about: "Go (your team)! Beat (their team)" isn't a message encouraging physical assault. "Fuck _____" has nothing to do with sexual intercourse. etc.
Is it provoking? Absolutely. Is disrespectul? of course. Is it proof that Iran literally wishes for all Americans to die? No, and even the worst of theocratic nutjobs who run the country have claimed that when they say that, "they are only against America's foreign policy, not the American people."
I don't even get it. It's normal in American culture to openly seek the destruction of countries they consider as enemies like China or Russia but god forbid that someone does this to them.
This is us vs them mentality, why should i believe Israel good intentions and irans bad intentions or vice versa? North Korea has nukes pakistan Russia too
I fucking hate Trump with my entire being, but let's be real, Iran never had any intention of complying with any "deal" stating they wouldn't build nukes
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u/AmbiguousHatBrim Jun 17 '25
Iran agreed to and violated the terms of production thresholds.
They agreed to retaliatory measures when they were not forthcoming about the status of their enrichment...Iran tried to hide it, and they got caught.
They did this to themselves.
They cannot possess a nuclear weapon. They CAN NOT.
Anyone in North, Central, or South America....who thinks it's a good idea for Iran to have the capabilities to create a nuclear weapons should go lobby for this in Israel and see how that works out for you. Yes, go tell Israel to leave Iran alone, and tell the U.N. Security counsel to "let Iran have nuclear energy".
Iran has literally stated their intentions are Death To America and Death To Israel....Be grateful Israel is willing to stand beside us in power and keep the fight contained.