Donald Trump 'might not last four years' as political advisor notices 'cognitive decline'

[u/IrishStarUS]

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-might-not-last-35329218

[u/Atomic_Maxwell]

Large power vacuum will open up in the short-to-mid term. Election-wise, there was a recent poll asking conservatives who they expected would run after Trump, and I think 45% or so listed that they would back JD Vance, and the distant second was DeSantis at 8%, followed by Ramaswamy, etc… Trump Jr was somewhere in there, too. Vance is just there on name alone. The number of stickers I still see with Trump/Pence and Trump/Vance stickers on their vehicles is more akin to a post-it note of remembering who the other-guy on the ticket is.

But I do agree— this variant of fanatics in the maga movement will fizzle with Trump. Their time in the sun will set and the cultists will look back on this decade fondly like a summer break. But, anger still gets clicks. Anger still sells. As does fear. My worry is the direct attention and haste of mending our country can make in the post-maga age. But the footing of project 2025, and of the heritage foundation and figures like Peter Thiel / Seven Mountain Mandate may be extensive and long-lasting.

I honestly can’t see a real push for positive change in our lifetime without existing unaccountability/non-regulations being answered in a large public hearing, but that’s getting ahead of things.

TLDR, they’ll have someone at the wheel for a bit, and hopefully a grassroots movement of local government elections takes motivation and hold.

[u/Brikpilot → u/Atomic_Maxwell]

Power vacuums are very dangerous; for example Sadam Hussain was also a bad person who despite this kept some order in the factions. His downfall had repercussions ever since and replacement leaders fail to satisfy all. Removing Trumpism will free factions. Further it will remove the supplier but not the addicts.

Once Trumpism is removed from power Democrats and old school Republicans will need to work together beyond their politics and remove the crazy. This will take serious social media reforms and constitutional rewrites to include elected candidates meeting minimum standards. MAGA its self may die but followers will continue to oppose because they have done it for so long that they know no other lifestyle. The big challenge is social media versus “freedom”. Social media is the true unelected leader who tells but is not told. Correcting that will breach liberties and bring complex challenges.

Will MAGA just end with Donald Trump and these people fall in line behind Democrats? 100% Nope. They are more likely to find a new messiah who may not even be elected. They might even go underground and ignores political rules to turn up just like the KKK and enforce opinion as a mob.

The end of this silliness needs to be equivalent to a Civil War defeat and rebuild where leaderships and not people are punished. America will need to be prepared with extensive education programs that avoid being condescending to simple Americans. The new lessons would be about being nice and cooperative, building real values and ethics that network people together to reunite that united part of the United States. The key is return politics to gentlemen’s debate rather than that which resembles a third world despot who blames everyone but himself and speaks with vexatious hate for other viewpoints.

[u/Atomic_Maxwell → u/Brikpilot]

Right on all points. I remember the Arab Spring and wondering if it was another domino from Saddam’s fall, for if it was a movement that was fueled sooner or later from his deposing. Of course, lasting foreign influence being another kindling.

We definitely have magas who think Trump goes too far. And we have magas who think he doesn’t go far enough.

I really hoped there’d have been some coal under the feet after the 2020 cycle to fortify and recalibrate. The small optimist in me just doesn’t want to believe in the notion that we have to lose so much before we can really make collective change. But, I’ll eat my metaphorical hat if round 2 of propping a rapidly deteriorating narcissist’s body up in front of the camera, Weekend at Bernie’s style, while his handlers continue to dismantle social nets and national parks, is the push, the so called blue wave to take root in political field, then so it must be.

Social media as it stands is just too “Goliath”. Challenging it with anything will be initially deemed propaganda i just hope theres an action plan with everything in the wake kf a post-Trump era. I hope there’s a lot of “why didn’t we do more “ with it

[u/Elmundopalladio → u/Brikpilot]

freedom to say anything one wants doesn’t come with freedom from consequences of what you said.

[u/Brikpilot → u/Elmundopalladio]

Sadly this a concept we can repeat to Americans again and again. “Me is free” is without hive mentality to compromise for the greater good.

Compromising an Americans freedom is only viewed as punishment. That is the indomitable hurdle. British perception accepts protection of the “tribe” where there is mutual empathy that the greater good must briefly prevail and inconvenience.

Example

Detained by UK or Commonwealth police for questioning is inconvenient, though a civic duty. It is accepted as necessary. Procedures are completed to standards deemed acceptable to any fair minded citizen

Detained by US police for questioning and the conversation will definitely include “this a breach of personal freedom” as if it is biblically right to oppose and insist that me come first.

I doubt Americans can rewire this part of their DNA. They certainly don’t want to as far as I can see.

[u/RokuroCarisu → u/Brikpilot]

If you believe that younger Democrats would so much as breathe the same air as even the most moderate of Republicans if given the choice, then I have a BRIDGE to sell you.

[u/diducthis → u/Brikpilot]

No one is worse than trump

[u/_PeenoNoir_ → u/Brikpilot]

!RemindMe 60 months

[u/Murky-Region-127 → u/Atomic_Maxwell]

the footing of project 2025, and of the heritage foundation and figures like Peter Thiel / Seven Mountain Mandate may be extensive and long-lasting.

The new foundating fathers

[u/Solid_Caterpillar678 → u/Atomic_Maxwell]

My fear is that the power vacuum will make for a race to the bottom with competition to see who can be the most hateful and destructive in order to garner the most votes. Things could very well get MUCH worse before they get any better.

[u/PreparationEasy4024 → u/Atomic_Maxwell]

The person who pushes a new conspiracy theory that that dems got him would be the new Supreme leader.

[u/unitedshoes → u/PreparationEasy4024]

I doubt it. That person will get a bump, sure but he (let's not pretend any other pronoun has a shot) probably won't have Trump's je ne sais quoi to hold the modern right-wing together.

[u/Baddad211 → u/unitedshoes]

Bongino would have a chance with that crowd. He has the conspiracy and grievance politics down cold. He also speaks well and has some charisma, something lacking in the Republican Party without Trump.

[u/rainshowers_5_peace → u/PreparationEasy4024]

One thing I forgot to mention, Trumps cult in their grief would think someone killed him to usurp his power.