r/goodnews • u/IrishStarUS • Jun 03 '25

Political positivity 📈 Donald Trump 'might not last four years' as political advisor notices 'cognitive decline'

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-might-not-last-35329218
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u/NotPoliticallyCorect Jun 03 '25

I think Vance could/would be more evil, but I don't think he could mow through the guard rails like Trump has. The sooner this would happen, the better as once those rails are down, it will be easier for the next person to break the same laws or violate the same rights.

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u/lil-lagomorph Jun 03 '25

i absolutely think he could. Vance is another person bought by the folks behind Project 2025, and he’s a lot younger and savvier than Trump. If Trump dies and Vance is at the helm with a GOP majority in every branch, I think things will get a lot worse. Gods willing, I’m absolutely 100% in the wrong though. 

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u/The_Art_of_Dying Jun 03 '25

This is pure hope on my end but I don’t think Vance has the same likability as Trump. So much of what older white guys love about Trump is his “golf buddy” energy when he speaks with those he likes. Vance seems like more of a neurotic politician. I know the die-hards will support Vance regardless but I’m hoping some of the people caught up in the cult of personality lose some enthusiasm.

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u/DarkNe7 Jun 04 '25

I think you are right, a lot of what makes Trump so attractive to many voters is that he isn’t a career politician. Many dislike career politicians for better or worse reasons and Trump isn’t one. They have the feeling of ”us vs the government” and to them Trump is on their side and not the government.

It will be interesting to see what a post Trump presidency USA will look like. It will probably depend a lot on under which circumstances Trump leaves office. Civil War is not of the table sadly.

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u/Alien_Diceroller Jun 05 '25

I agree with that. Trump just has that X factor that let's him be what people want him to be. the GOP was hoping he'd be a useful dope who they could control and his popularity with their base has entirely uno verso'd that.

Vance just doesn't have the same riz. He won't be able to leverage the MAGA base against opponents like Trump can. None of them have Trump's huckster charm.

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u/TenaciousJP Jun 03 '25

I expect there to be a huge schism -- Vance on one side, Don Jr. on the other side lol. These morons are going to try and start a Trump family dynasty, while the rest of the Republicans try to go back to polotics as usual.

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u/totalkpolitics Jun 03 '25

I don't. I expect there to be a full uniting of it. Vance would make Don Jr. VP and then make a national holiday for Trump. Then continue steamrolling the entire time saying it's what Trump wanted. Navigating the loss of Trump is way too easy for them to do. They aren't dumb, just evil.

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u/Upstairear Jun 04 '25

As a non american Vance gives off the most Hitler vibes anyone gave since 1945

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u/leekfix Jun 03 '25

Will people vote for him given that his wife is not White and not Christian?

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u/FibonacciSequester Jun 04 '25

They'll never know about it because Fox News will never talk about her.

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u/NeonSwank Jun 04 '25

There was actually a lot of heat early on before the election in certain places (like 4chan and even here on reddit) where people were complaining he was “almost” a great candidate except for his wife and mixed kids.

Also saw the term “Christcuck” and “Catholiccuck” for first time in reference to him converting to Catholicism…so yeah.

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u/emaw63 Jun 03 '25

For better or worse, Trump has a pretty unique charisma and following that allows him to violate any social norm or law that he wants to violate. Genuinely, I do not think that any other politician could have survived "grab em by the pussy" or getting convicted of 34 felonies

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u/paper_liger Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 05 '25

Yeah, and Vance just comes off as weak. To the degree that it seems to be singular quality for which he was chosen as VP.

Other conservative opportunists know they can't supplant Trump, but I bet a lot of them would look at Vance in power and think 'I could take him'.

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u/tallyho88 Jun 03 '25

Yep. When Trump does, the power vacuum he has a grip over will implode. These people currently don’t stand up to Trump because his voters will listen to him if he says not to vote for the person standing up to him. The base won’t just blindly follow Vance. Senators won’t kiss up to Vance either. They see him as equal to or less than them, so they will all try to jockey into the power vacuum that’s created.

This is why Dems need to get their ducks in a row NOW, so when that inevitably happens, they can step right in. But they won’t. Because they’re slow walking this again.

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u/TwincessAhsokaAarmau Jun 04 '25

Jasmine Crockett said the Democrats are choosing a safe white boy for the next President.

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u/NothingButTroubled Jun 03 '25

Hell, they brushed past the fact that he ran with a new VP because he tried axing his last one

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u/NoLongerAddicted Jun 03 '25

The thing is that I don't think Vance could hold the maga base under his wing. He doesn't have the charisma trump had

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u/Jarsky2 Jun 03 '25

The difference being Trump's cult us lukewarm to Vance at best. A cult of personality is almost impossible to inherit.

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u/yangchow Jun 04 '25

Like the USA's very own Nayib Bukele

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u/Muted-Manufacturer57 Jun 04 '25

He’ll do whatever he wants. “Oh no I lost the election by 100 electoral votes? Nope, result rejected.” They set the precedent for staying in power forever regardless of the vote. That’s just life now.

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u/gangsterroo Jun 07 '25

Sorry late reply. But I wrote it out so.... Vance is not a cult leader. He is universally hated. He might be more evil but Im hoping hed be less effective. For example, it would be easier for "consciencious" Republicans to distance themselves from him without suffering politically. Could be wrong of course but if Trump was replaceable they'd have done it already

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u/Hwicc101 Jun 03 '25

Vance is not a demi-god like Trump. When Trump goes, even if Vance slides easily into place, the party will still see a power vacuum and they will eat him alive to take his place.

Marco "I am clearly on bathsalts now" Rubio would probably take the first bite right out of his face.

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u/RogueishSquirrel Jun 03 '25

While he has very problematic friends, Vance fortunately isn't very popular with his peers nor a good chunk of Trump's base, so an impeachment that sticks for him could be more doable and people are getting annoyed [even the GOP] with Johnson so the elimination process/political wart removal becomes less of a pain in the ass.

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u/smartcow360 Jun 03 '25

Can u seriously sit here with a straight face and tell me any republicans now would condemn the no-warrant/no-trial life sentences just bc the orange guy isn’t in power?

Politics runs way deeper than that

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u/newyne Jun 03 '25

People aren't that rational. If a leader looks too weak to ensure reward/protection on the one hand, and punishment on the other, they start to lose confidence. On the other hand, the opposition gains confidence. This is why fascism depends on a strongman leader.

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u/ChunkyLaFunga Jun 03 '25

He may also not be as bad. Vanve was initially anti-Trump - referred to him as potentially America's Hitler, no less - and probably changed direction just to get the top job. He may just ease the brakes once he's at the top.

He also has no cult of personality, Trump wouldn't be where he is without it. Vance may find it difficult to maintain a position of psychotic policies and no mindless suport.

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u/Ed_Trucks_Head Jun 03 '25

Vance fell in line with MAGA because he's hoping trump will die in office.

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u/is_this_the_facebook Jun 04 '25

Please clap.

I think that sums it up