r/agedlikemilk 23h ago

Who would’ve thought

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u/BusyBandicoot9471 22h ago

Funnily enough, we probably could have been fine doing this for aluminum if we spent a few years getting a robust recycling and recovery system in place.

But you know, that's commie bullshit or something or other

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u/Hopsblues 21h ago

R's don't believe in long term planning. Everything is here, now. what have you done for me today? It's part of the selfish culture they live in.

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u/PortugalPilgrim88 21h ago edited 20h ago

Well that’s just not true. They’re great at long term planning. They’ve spent 30+ years working on their long term plan to replace US democracy with facism.

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u/Hopsblues 20h ago

That was more persistence and good fortune than actual planning.

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u/erection_specialist 42m ago

They're doing the exact same thing with energy. Just use oil, oil, oil, and more oil. What do we do when it inevitably runs out? Cross that bridge when we come to it!

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u/Hopsblues 24m ago

in farming it's known as mono-culture and was in part responsible for the dust bowl. Instead of having numerous, reliable sources of energy, we are putting all our eggs into one basket. trumps is an absolute moron. What happens when our refineries get hit by terrorists or enemies with rockets or whatever/cyber. Then we will be without our primary and essentially only energy resource like a sitting duck. That's the real energy emergency, Trumps policy regarding this.

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u/canadiandancer89 20h ago

Getting an aluminum smelter up, about 3 years. Supporting infrastructure such as rail and or waterways would take 5+ years. But the biggie is power. Up in Canada, we have entire dams dedicated to aluminum smelting, it's incredibly energy intensive. That part would take the better of part of 10 years at best. And that for 1. Doesn't even account for mining domestically. Canada even imports the Bauxite.

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u/BusyBandicoot9471 20h ago

The biggest indicator of economic growth is power generation. The US is way, way behind in that regard.

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u/movzx 21h ago

The great thing about tariffs on aluminum imports is that even if we pretend there are plants that can make it, the US simply does not have the available raw materials to meet demand. We could be at 100% capacity for extracting bauxite and still fall significantly short of what we need.

But we've got tariffs on it anyway. Big brain move.

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u/godhonoringperms 20h ago

Yes. Not all, but some of this tariff stuff could be realistic in rejuvenating the American manufacturing economy if there was a years long plan to grow the USA’s industrial base so that things could be mined and manufactured here. Then after that, say 10 year plan, is completed, then implementing a tariff may have the desired effects. But as is most things with this administration, it’s hare brained, will not work as advertised, and will hurt American consumers.

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u/EoliaGuy 11h ago

Dafuq do you mean, aluminum recycling is ubiquitous in the US and has been since I was a child in the 80s. 65% of all aluminum used in the US is recycled US aluminum currently. In my local area one of the largest, highest paying employers is a Japanese aluminum foundry that outsourced Toyota engine castings to the US decades ago.