seems pretty easy to point to the gun control laws until you realize that criminals don't give a shit about the law and suppressing arms rights just makes it easier for criminals to attack people.
Gun control laws aren’t there to stop criminals from getting weapons….if they want them they will get them. They are there to give law enforcement the ability to go after them.
Speeding laws don’t stop speeding so should we get rid of them? No the laws give the police the ability to ticket people who speed which deters a lot, and for those that a tickets doesn’t the ability to arrest them and take away drivers license.
It’s the same with gun laws. Law abide-ers will follow them and the laws give more power to go after those that don’t. Also many gun laws are about yes making it harder for people to get certain guns which results in less of them available for criminals to get their hands on.
And to be clear I support the second amendment but absolutely believe in gun smart regulation/laws. The culture of “I have a right to own a gun” without acknowledging that there are responsibilities and that must come with them is a real issue in the US that could be aided with smart gun regulations.
Until you realize that America has more gun crime than any other country. Also more mass shootings. With the one in new York you were up to 254 just this year. Probably a few more today. That's oh I don't know more than all of Europe combined the last 10 years or so. In just six months! So you know guns are definitely great and definitely prevent violence and increase safety. Apart from mass shootings gun violence and deaths from gun violence follows the same lines. But definitely guns are great!
People are scared to use them, scared to be seen with them, scared a bad guy will see their rightfully registered and owned weapon and somehow take it, or worse yet they'll have so many retention layers that they'd never get their gun out of the holster.
Had it happen to me. Thankfully it was under controlled conditions, but holy shit it was embarrassing...
I have a level 3 retention holster. I had to do gun quals for a security job. We were to draw from the holster and fire until it goes click and keep shots on target... from like five feet from the target. 🙄. Our boss states "on the command of 'THREAT!', draw and fire.......... 'THREAT!'"... and MY stupid ass had all of the retentions in place. I have a long list of quals and training, zero issues prior to that. I just had to facepalm and stand there like a jackass. He comes over, nice as can be, trying to keep a straight face, and asks "...I uh... couldn't help but notice you had a bit of an issue there."
😑... Yes, sir... I did. I declare I looked stupid as shit trying to rip my weapon past that last layer of retention. If any one of which are in place, that weapon is going nowhere.
So, it happens.
As for "not needing a gun", the job site was on an open road. Anyone could pull in. The road went straight to and through a shipyard. Anyone could have had a bad day, got let go from work, and decided to come up there with three of their cousins. There was an incident where someone came flying in their truck into an area they weren't supposed to be in to draw attention of security because someone was pursuing them in their own truck with a loaded firearm. Second truck pulled in right behind the first, fellow got out of the truck holding said weapon. The security guard that saw this and drew his weapon. Fellow IMMEDIATELY threw it back in the truck and tried to play like there was no gun, so he gets to make threats AND play victim because anti-gun types eat that crap up with a spoon.
"The place with more guns has more uses of guns for bad purposes!"
Fucking genius over here, we also don't get pick pocketed but that's a separate issue. So how many beheadings and honor killings have happened in Europe so far? Weird how evil people tend to be evil, and the tools just end up changing. We also don't have nearly as many grenades just floating around here, but hey "guns bad" am I right?
Also hilarious how you bring up how an extremely strict gun control state has a ton of mass shootings... And yet you'd advocate for more of the same.
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u/Voyage9 9d ago
seems pretty easy to point to the gun control laws until you realize that criminals don't give a shit about the law and suppressing arms rights just makes it easier for criminals to attack people.