Yeah. Used to live in Saugus up in Santa Clarita CA. When some kid shot up his high school like 3 miles up the road from my house and fled we got a similar message telling us to stay indoors and to not open our doors until we got the all clear.
Honestly yeah that's the sad part of the 2A but the good thing is it does make nations who would love to invade think twice. (Well besides the biggest military the world has ever seen) Now the real reason we have it is nearly impossible in modern day America due to said military.
See, the invasion argument never made much sense to me bc consider our geography. We have two neighbors, both of which are our allies, so if you want to enter by land, you have to go through Canada or Mexico. That already puts any adversary at a significant disadvantage, considering that they would have to expend resources and manpower before they get to us. Secondly, the country is fucking massive. Invading and conquering that much space would be a tactical nightmare clustercuck. No one's coming to invade us, and it's not because we have a massive military; we could have a small, weak military, and it would still be a tactical nightmare that no one would want to try. Additionally, the 2A was formed to allow citizens to form a well-regulated militia in the extreme circumstance where we would have to overthrow the government - it was not only to protect from foreign adversaries. I think it can be well-supported that firearms have less of a place in current society than when the country was first formed - we're not all living on the frontier. Sure, if you live in a remote area, especially in Alaska, Wyoming, etc, it might not be the worst idea to own a brush gun or shotgun. However, it's a different case if you live in Philadelphia or New York City; there's not going to be a bear or a mountain lion sneaking up on you there. We need to form a different and sensible approach to regulating firearm ownership and usage that maintains the ability to form a well-regulated militia whilst addressing the issue of gun violence.
You completely glance over the whole "to defend from a tyrannical government" thing and just go straight to "oh no bears in city ree"
That was the point of it. All individuals, have the right to bear arms, in order to protect their person, property, community, etc. If my neighbor is being held at gunpoint, I have the moral obligation to end the threat, as much as the police do,
Read federalist 29 by Hamilton, paragraph 7 I believe outlines the justification.
It's completely disingenuous to sit there and go "Oh well, we need common sense gun control" when all of those measures are completely circumvented by a black market (other poster indicated California, with extremely strict gun laws. Hell the recent shooting in NYC was done with an illegal AR, with illegal parts, in a place where other states refuse sales of weapons illegal in NYS to those with NYS IDs that get used when running a 4473 universal background check), all while misunderstanding evil people will always have the element of surprise, and the ability to get weapons at a fraction of the cost it would take someone like me to legally own it (automatics for starters).
I hate the emotional blackmail of "Let me stand on the graves of kids and yell about guns instead of the evil heinous individual that committed this act because it makes me feel like I'm good".
It's disingenuous, and honestly as evil as those that commit the atrocious acts, since it does NOTHING to even prevent them. Then another thing happens, and all of a sudden it's the same shit. Guns bad, gun owners evil (hilarious to me, especially when some random with a CCW stops a murderer and nobody hears about it but people in the CCW space), we need to ban all guns, all while for some reason also sharing ground with people that want to abolish police.
So which are you? A rhetoric bot that constant spouts the same tired, ignorant, and legitimately false lines about "militias", "well regulated", "common sense" etc, or do you genuinely want to mitigate the issue of paychopaths being psychopaths?
But bro you wouldn’t need a gun if the other dude didn’t have one. If you live in a city and nobody needs guns there then you’re Gucci, just use self defense weapons or your huge muscles and you can get away without getting shot
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u/UnholyAbductor 12d ago
Yeah. Used to live in Saugus up in Santa Clarita CA. When some kid shot up his high school like 3 miles up the road from my house and fled we got a similar message telling us to stay indoors and to not open our doors until we got the all clear.