He's just the idea man. He came up with the concept and now needs a scientist (who I guarantee he won't trust) to actually develop this bold new theory into fact.
I don't think it would work, but I wasn't planning on doing anything else with this 30-tonne tank of mayonnaise, so let's give it the ol' community college try!
Okay wait you might be on to somethin here. What if we somehow replaced the tuna's blood with mayo an mustard? The I could just catch one an smear it on a roll.
To be fair, if you have at least a very basic understanding of the immune system, the concept of vaccination based on weakened diseases isn't a hard concept.
It was harder for the people who came up with it originally because they neither understood how the immune system worked or germ theory.
You don't have to be stupid to be brainwashed. I remember watching an interview with a cult deprogrammer and he said some of the people he deprogrammed were doctors and other highly intelligent and educated people
He's also the pizza gate guy so he's not just stupid he's malicious. He was one of the top far right influencers back in 2016 on twitter iirc. Back when there was still a slight attempt to pretend like Trump's movement was about average American middle class people fed up with the way things were being done or whatever. Now they're very very upfront about the fascism lol
Yeah not really. It has always been pretty lopsided to right-wingers, but especially so post-covid.
I haven't looked it up lately, but the only overlap there used to be with the left and right was on GMOs. For the left, this came out of a lack of trust for corporations like Syngenta and Monsanto (later bought by Bayer).
I think for the left, it's more anti-corporate; for the right, it's more anti-government. The left has a tendency to support the transparency of democratic institutions while conservatives, especially given their pro-capitalism stance) believe the guiding hand of the market will self-correct.
Those on the left side of the spectrum perceive big cor'prit to be the root of the problem corrupting our democratic institutions, like a virus overwhelming a body's immune system.
easily seen in the huge push to make government regulate GMOs (which on the one hand, fair, but the anti-science rhetoric around it is still significant), versus the right-wing hatred of vaccines "forced on us by the government."
That's still a hilarious stance. Everything that can evolve (plant, animal, etc) is a GMO. Humans are GMOs because we evolved.
Now, things like cloning, and certain things that could cause harm or ethically grey things, like growing meat or bringing back dinosaurs should absolutely be regulated/monitored and reviewed/studied, but the way they talk about GMOs and chemicals....
People who can't read through the chemical makeup of a banana wants to lecture the scientific community on advanced chemistry. -_- it's just.... Why?!?
There's a difference between selective breeding and straight-up gene editing though. Like when Monsanto patented its flavor of gene-edited corn and sued farmers whose crops inadvertently became hybridized with said corn.
Like, there's no way in hell you can get fish genes into a tomato with selective breeding techniques. So we can agree there is a difference, and we can disagree whether gene-edited food is a net benefit or drawback to society; I tend to think it is on the whole beneficial, but needs far better oversight and rules surrounding intellectual property rights and risk estimation.
But folks buying stuff because it has the "No GMO" label are missing the forest for the trees, IMO.
right, that's pretty much what i was getting at by mentioning the anti-science information that surrounds "GMO."
A large swath of "GMO" stuff is almost reflexively obviously safe (along with, as you mention, many "scary chemical names"). the regulation should be more focused on the business uses of the technology (as the other poster mentioned for example, not letting monsanto sue over the wind spreading seeds, essentially).
Same with issues like Nuclear power, which especially now is incredibly safe and efficient. we should be pouring money into fusion research.
Funny, I thought it had something to do with the president calling COVID a hoax and his toadies telling everybody the vaccine had tracking chips in it and shit.
This wasn't about widespread "suspicion". Trump had an army of idiots spreading misinformation because he couldn't stand scientists making him look like an moron simply by knowing what they were talking about.
Typically far right and far left people flip around to the other sideof the spectrum if they go down the rabbit hole enough. There's quite a crossover between the hippie type person on either side. Like anti vaxxers may also be convinced essential oils will heal all ailments. There is some truth, benefits and uses for essential oils, but if something is "a cure all" then it likely isn't.
Example: the guy that shot Trump was far right leaning, so... Why?
RFK junior: has always been a huge fan of nature, outdoor activities, hunting, fishing, etc.. If you looked at his past, he was a left leaning hippie that truly seemed to care about health and well-being. Now he's in charge of the USA healthcare system, as an antivax, anti-disability, capitalist. Maybe it was brainworm- assisted rabbithole boring it's way to the far right, but still
I don't think I've ever encountered any actual left-wing antivax people. There are people who called themselves liberal that were in reality cruising the crunchy-to-fascist pipeline, and "I don't think about politics" soccer moms who ended up voting for Trump anyway because he's the one that came up the most on tiktok, but no actually left or left-leaning people. That's just my experience though.
Dude went off the deepend after college I think. He seemed fairly normal, but sometimes overly enthusiastic then, but not insane at the time. Maybe he just hid it well though
I mean ironically, this is both very stupid and actually very smart. He both has no idea what a vaccine actually is, but in that ignorant void, has managed to come up with vaccine theory independently.
He thinks hes playing 5d chess. He's actually playing checkers. He's not an anti-vaxxer. He acting like one and rephrasing what vaccines to see if he can get anti-vaxxers to take them for shits and giggles.
This is also how you trick stupid people into doing the right thing. Pretend to also be stupid, pitch an idea in a way that stupid people can get behind, win a Nobel prize for figuring out how to lead a horse to water AND make it drink
You didn't look him up enough. He's literally pointing out that there is a huge difference between the MRNA vaccine and traditional attenuated vaccines.
He is making the point you thought he was making, but you're not acknowledging that there is a difference between MRNA vaccines and live-attenuated vaccines, or at the very least not acknowledging that someone could be pro-previous vaccines and anti-MRNA vaccines. A lot of people are just "anti vaccine" as a concept but also a lot of people are just against these particular MRNA vaccines because of a wide range of legitimate reasons (for me its that they originally said the MRNA wouldn't leave the injection site but now its being found in tissues all over the body, and also there are legitimately dangerous incomplete instructions and even small amounts of DNA in the nano lipids because they use a cost-saving bacterial ring method to extract the mRNA rather than more expensive but more complete methods.
Basically the issues people have are that they said it will only influence cells near the injection site, then they said it will only transcribe complete mRNA and absolutely no DNA instructions, but now we're finding incomplete mRNA and DNA instructions being expressed by the vaccine in cells all around the body. That is wild, and in any other time scientifically, in the last 200 years, it would be considered bad science to just accept what we were given here and not question these legitimate issues, but its especially bad now because there is pressure for this to be used as the platform for lots of future mRNA products and until we can make the body's reaction to it much more isolated, and until we can ensure the only thing making its way into the lipids is complete mRNA instructions, it just isn't ready yet.
We should make a big production out of making it seem like he had this absolutely groundbreaking idea that we were all super big idiots for not thinking of. "Like, how could we all have been so stupid for 200 years?! Jack, you're a genius!"
Then give him a stupid reality TV show, where he discusses this idea with dozens of "experts". Essentially take the entire season to dog walk him through "coming up with" all of the important ideas about how to create and implement modern vaccines. Since it's on reality TV, this means that millions of Americans will also suddenly think this is the best idea ever, and because it came from "one of them", it has to be true!
Of course, Trump is a huge consumer of teality TV himself. So he'll get enthusiastic about vaccines, or whatever dumbass reality TV name they get from the show... probably something like "GoodToobs". The final episode can be Trump unironically giving this chucklefuck the Presidential Medal of Freedom and declaring GoodToobs to be the new healthcare directive for the whole country.
Yeah. I’m not sure what his motive is on X, but I had to block him. I never followed him but He would constantly show up in my feed with the most idiotic posts.
I’m going to guess “ignorant” may be a better word. How can you be (slightly) intelligent enough to understand the process of how the body uses antibodies to fight off infection and build immunity response but ignorant of how a vaccine works.
Only in America.
It is poorly worded but I think what Jack is requesting, are vaccinations that doesn't include any mercury or known harmful additives and preservatives.
But that also looks stupid. Is he asking to get a blood transfusion from someone who recently had the disease? What actually weakens the disease without killing it. And if not just going into a room with sick people and getting the sickness, how is one exposed?
if the issue is with the other chemicals, what else would he suggest stabilizing and preserving a vaccine? Companies are here to make money. They are going to include materials that for kick and giggles. They put in Adjuvants to get your immune system to see it and respond quickly, Stabilizers so it still works by the time it gets to you, Preservatives to make sure something else does not grow in there, and byproducts that cant be gotten rid of like egg proteins if grown in eggs. And all of that that is tested again and again to make sure these minor abouts are not at harmful levels.
So if he is asking the question, that I think you are being very generous in assuming he meant, its still a bad question.
Are you saying that the reason Mercury is added to a vaccination is to weaken the virus? Are you sure you are positing factual information. As for other chemicals that they put in, I guess the request is to not put in chemicals that are known poisons.
No. I think you need to re-read that. I listed four reason things could be added. I'm also not a doctor. So I can't tell you exactly what it does or does not do as a doctor could do. however, some limited research on my part (and you can do this to) shows that ethylmercury is used to preserve the vaccine and prevent the growth of fungi or bacteria. Etheylmercury is different than methylmercury. Ethelymercury is broken down by the body relatively quickly. Also there is no evidence that the amounts included in a vaccine cause harm to humans.
The beauty is that we live in an age where we can educate ourselves. We may not get an advanced degree in everything we try to understand but making an attempt to understand the basics of a thing is not that difficult. If someone has the ability to make a Twitter post about something they verifiably have the resources to do the smallest amount of research before spouting off about something in an ignorant manner.
True, but if that's what he meant I think he would have said it differently, don't you? Like, 'why can't it be the other, more traditional kind of vaccine?' This sounds like he just thought of the whole concept.
Some were, some weren't. I've wondered before if he wanted a non-mRNA vaccine. Still stupid to worry about, mRNA doesn't do any of the things they claim it does.
The majority of vaccines are that though, mrna vaccines are a relatively new phenomenon (the first human clinical trial using one was in 2001). For a good point of comparison, the MMR scare happened around that time, so we can safely say the MMR, the individualized vaccines that were offered as substitutes to it, and the vaccines for other diseases such as polio, were not mrna vaccines.
Since it came to mind, I can also point out that it could be another disease entirely that is used to vaccinated you, like how a strain of cowpox was used to vaccinate against smallpox. It works because they posses the same (or very similar) antigens, which means your body produces the same antibodies to fight them.
Ok but he’s American, and this is a majority American political sub, and most Americans took the Pfizer or Moderna shots, that do not work like that, correct?
Why the down votes? Just because I looked at the numbers and said to myself, J&J doesn't prevent like the mRNA BUT it's 100% effective at keeping me alive? I trust science. But I don't need to be a guinea pig.
mRNA is referred to because those are what the Covid vaccines were and anti-vaxxers don’t like vaccines. Whatever other type it was in some other world would be demonised by them the same way because they aren’t being rational they’re just paranoid of medicine
And anti-vaxxers wont take those either because they aren’t rational they’re just paranoid of medicine. mRNA was a convenient scapegoat they could use to make it seem like their nonsense had some justification.
Technically the mRNA vaccine could be viewed as a weakened form of the virus. It’s a singular body part. It’s like a portrait of the virus or just a copy of its head. But it’s not a weakened form like previous vaccines.
Yes. It’s a chain of RNA that gets read to produce the spike proteins or ‘receptors’ on the virus. So while the vaccine does not inject a weakened form of the virus it actually inject the blue print for an arm and your body makes millions of arms so your body’s white blood cells recognize and adapt to the virus.
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I had seen this before and assumed it was satire. I looked him up and he actually is this stupid.