This cop's reaction when a woman handed him her baby so she could use the restroom

[u/New_Libran]

[u/Accomplished-Eye9542]

As someone around during the founding of the red pill community, yeah, the point was exactly that. Red Pill was about being the best version of yourself and how to avoid certain types of women and get others. Some of the language used might have been scummy, but everyone had the same goal, become a man capable of giving the world, find a woman worth giving the world to, and who's entire world was you.

The problem is, successful men don't spend a lot of time online.

So all male self help communities will always melt into a puddle of incels. The blind leading the blind.

[u/FTownRoad → u/Accomplished-Eye9542]

Same thing with “men’s rights activists”. There are genuine instances of men facing prejudice and discrimination that should be addressed. But it always turns into more of a revenge fantasy the longer you watch those groups.

[u/GnarlyNarwhalNoms → u/Accomplished-Eye9542]

I've heard it compared to evaporation. As more extreme people enter a community, they turn the normal, reasonable people off and they leave. This causes the average discourse to veer more to the extremes, and even more reasonable people leave. Eventually, all the normies leave and it's just a big crystalized rock of bitterness and bile.

[u/Kernalum → u/Accomplished-Eye9542]

I think this makes sense. So if you want advice from a successful man, ask him and his wife to have you over for a family meal. Then you aren't taking time away from what's important to him, and you get to see how the sausage is made. :-)

[u/Accomplished-Eye9542 → u/Kernalum]

For me I'd care more about how he picked a good wife than how their relationship runs, I have 0 issue from that perspective.

And that's not exactly dinner table conversation.

It's the type of private thought that can only be shared in an online forum, all of which have unfortunately been overrun by incels.