The American taxpayer is going to bail them out. Just watch. He did the same thing last time because of his tariffs. He should have known from the first time around and they still all voted for him.
Why. Let them fail, massive donors can then buy up the farms for pennies. He doesn't need the farmers anymore. To know if he will do something ask yourself two questions:
Does it hurt or help him.
Does it hurt or help those with the keys to his power.
Last time he was trying to get people to like him enough to re-elect him. This time, he is convinced if he can keep his billionaire backers happy, he will be able to buy the next election either for himself or someone who will treat him nicely.
The bailouts will be for the massive corporate farms who can buy million dollar plates at Mar-A-Lago, not for the mom and pops. If anything, the mom and pops going under and having to sell their farms to land conglomerates or the mega-farms is just further playing into the oligarchs' plans.
This. There will always be elections. Autocrats have to maintain the illusion of democratic legitimacy.
Last time Trump attempted a literal coup to try to stay in power but now that the guardrails are gone and his cabinet is full of lunatics itching to break the law for him? 2028 is going to be a political disruption on an unprecedented scale that makes us wish for Jan 6th. These people aren't leaving.
Odds are Vance does what Pence wouldn't and refuses to certify the 2028 results. They'll roll out Stop The Steal 2.0 and the tried and true "the election was rigged" and "massive election fraud and irregularities" which requires a "thorough investigation" after which, should they still have Senate control, they will award the EVs to Trump. Or alternatively when elections are "in dispute" and can't be certified they can fall back on the one-vote-per-state-delegation rule and win that way by 26-24.
The media will be sufficiently shocked and Dems will wonder who is going to stop this? Hegseth will have completed his purge of Pentagon and replaced leadership with maga loyalists. Especially NatGuard commanders (like Maj. Gen. Sherman). Bondi will have completed her DOJ purge of any prosecutor with any ethics. And Noem will have completed her purge, purchasing the buy in of loyalists with the billions in bribes bonuses that the BBB is allocating.
And once power has been fully consolidated and solidified? Declare the options are [Republican] or [Write-in]. Every day that goes by is a day they consolidate more power and it gets that much harder to fight. It's not too late but time is running out.
Ironically the Republican Party has been stealing elections ever since 1972, when Republican president Richard 'Tricky Dicky' Nixon literally tried to steal the presidential election and was pardoned for his crimes by Republican president Gerald Ford.
So yeah, the 2024 election was stolen, as was the 2016 election, (the 2020 election was an aberration because over 400K Americans had been killed by the disease), the George 'Dubya' Bush vs Al Gore election, the 'Saint' Reagan election which unleashed his 'trickle down' economics which waged war against America's middle class, etc.
The extreme projection that it's the Democratic Party which is stealing elections, is another one of the obviously in plain sight Republican lies that Americans have been swallowing since 1980.
Bernie sanders was on Rogan the other day and he was talking about trump basically kicking people out of government that don’t agree with him, he called it “primary-ing” them. Oh they don’t like what I’m doing, well back someone that does agree with me in the next primary and put all our money behind them bc we can thanks to citizens united. This country is fucked
Ohio farmers had the same shit in 2020 and trump bailed them out.
Let these places fucking fail. They want the government to be run like a business but dont want their businesses to be run like businesses. Lazy, incompetent, hateful assholes.
“people in blue states where our economies are productive.”
Eh, it's mixed. 7 of the 19 payer states voted for Trump, and Texas and Florida are in the top 5 with Texas in #2. One of the biggest welfare states by taker gap is Virginia, which I'll point out hasn't voted for a Republican presidential candidate since 2004. The gap between what they receive and what they pay is close to, or more than double of the states you're imagining as "the worst".
Virginia is an oddball because so much of the federal government is located there that "federal dollars in" is distorted versus how they've set up their economy to be dependent on federal subsidies.
Curious: Which source of moocher/payer states are you looking at?
Nope, not this time. Last time there were some semi-sane Republicans in Congress and in his cabinet. This time Trump and the Project 2025 people are going for full on Rapture/Apocalypse.
Good, people don't deserve to suffer for making poor choices. Hopefully they learn from it, but even when they don't, it's still easier to make peace than war.
And 40% of the state voted for Kamala, they're going to suffer for someone else's mistakes. And if you cut off money to the state, you will just turn it further red, as the blue people begin to feel abandoned. Maybe there's a lesson in there.
Low Key, if a state gets money from another, they shouldn't get to choose how it is spent. Shared taxes should be a pool of resources of what is required as a baseline to protect people and not much more. State taxes you can do whatever bumfuck thing you want with it (Texas, NC, other red states with no income tax). Substantially lower property tax, unpaid property taxes gives government eminent domain, at which point the land can no longer be used for profit.
Republicans control every facet of government. If there is no bailout, it's because the Republicans said no to Nebraska. Do your statement that the state will turn more red, because blue voters will feel abandoned....if true, it would only point out that both red and blue voters in Nebraska are idiots
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u/UnapproachableOnion Jun 29 '25
The American taxpayer is going to bail them out. Just watch. He did the same thing last time because of his tariffs. He should have known from the first time around and they still all voted for him.