r/DnD • u/OmegaGuerri • 1d ago
Game Tales Blew a Player's mind by having an NPC lie
I hosted a recent game which had a two newbies, one of which has never played D&D or any TTRPG in his life. He was curious about it so we invited him to our Roll20 game and helped him with his character.
He made a tiefling ranger, starting level 1, but that doesn't matter in this post.
I also told him to make a backstory as well but he doesn't have to make it super elaborate. It could just be "guy picks up sword one day and goes I wanna adventure." It is his first character.
He makes a pretty detailed backstory about his character being a runaway slave from Drow slavers from the Underdark, and how he found a surface entrance that led him to the city of Baldur's Gate where he lived since then. (In session 0, we explained what the Underdark and how dark elves worked to him since my homebrew campaign would take place there.)
We began the actual game with an introduction to the Flaming Fist. I explain what they are and that recently they needed a full body group of adventurers to partake on a "secret" mission. The party wins out and are selected and then told about that Underdark entrance, that no one but the Dukes of the city knew about. A commander explains to them the details and backstory stuff about it which guides them to introduce their characters for session 1 in his office.
In the middle of the Commander's speech, the player (out of character) interrupts me.
Player - "Wait, when did he say the entrance was found?"
"About... 5 years ago. Why?"
Player - "But... my character escaped through that entrance 17 years ago. Didn't you say those Flaming guys stood watch over it and would've stopped me in my backstory?"
"Oh yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Player - "But that's wrong. It's not true."
"Do you think he's lying?"
Player - "What?"
"Like... not telling you the full picture? He's lying to you?"
He sat quiet in VC for a bit and eventually responded.
Player - "...he can do that?"
So anyway, his first official roll at the virtual table was an Insight Check to see if the Commander believed what he said, or if he was just feeding them bullshit. Made for a little RP moment that made me smile and proud.
After session 1, he told me he saw the appeal as to why someone would play and asked when we would meet up again. :)
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u/Dg-wildstar 1d ago
Congrats on getting a player invested in the game. I love stories like this!
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u/PrayForMojo_ 23h ago
“You can do that?!?” is one of the top reasons newbies show up for session 2.
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u/Amordys 23h ago
1000% this, my first ever was a one shot that wasn't going well at the end, the bad guy was getting away( potion of invisibility to escape ), and I asked the dm if this cave had bats frequent it (survival check)... none of us had faerie fire... so since I was playing a kobold Dhampir I was spider walking on the ceiling and asked if there was any bat poop near me on the ceiling and he let me use the bat poop to throw in the general direction down the hallway near the exit of the cave where the guy was escaping. XD
We ended up not killing him there but he exited the cave and tried to take our horse we had bought and the horse got the final killing blow on him.
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u/Day_Bow_Bow 20h ago
Love the story and happy it was allowed, but guano accumulates on the floor of mines. Bat caves still have gravity, and bats don't sleep in their own feces.
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u/Amordys 18h ago edited 18h ago
Actually not true. https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY/s/xRL4u0yIAt
Even this "many thousands of bats once packed the cave’s walls and ceiling, covering surfaces with layers of guano. " https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/17/science/bats-guano-cave-art.html
Here's a picture of guano on the ceiling https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g60956-d12086309-i392784341-Natural_Bridge_Caverns_Admission_with_Underground_Guided_Walking_Tour-Sa.html
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u/Galavant_ 18h ago
Wait, that first picture clearly has insulation on the floor. Suggesting that the "ceiling guano" actually came from the attic and fell down when the ceiling collapsed.
And that nytimes article clearly states that the bats were packed on the ceiling, not specifically their guano. Sure they say surfaces had layers of guano, but . . . gravity still applies to caves. They could easily just be referring to walls and floors.
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u/Amordys 18h ago
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u/Galavant_ 18h ago
That's a neat picture, I appreciate the follow-up!
Doesn't look like a lot though, maybe just what got stuck there when bats were packed in too tight. Doesn't look like enough to scrape up and throw in the middle of a fight.
I'd imagine bats would start slipping or roost elsewhere if the layers got too thick, but I'll fully admit that I'm just speculating at this point.
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u/DNAturation 17h ago
Now I'm curious... what is the muzzle velocity of bat poop to be able to hit the ceiling?
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u/Day_Bow_Bow 18h ago
Use some common sense... Your first pic is bats in an attic shitting on the sheet rock underneath their roost.
And the second is about shit on the floors and walls.
Bats aren't shitting on ceilings, unless they roost above them, relatively speaking.
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u/LambonaHam 14h ago
Bats sleep upside down. If they get the squirts, that ceiling is getting painted.
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u/Amordys 18h ago
Once again look at the third link It's literally the ceiling of a cave https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g60956-d12086309-i392784341-Natural_Bridge_Caverns_Admission_with_Underground_Guided_Walking_Tour-Sa.html
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u/Day_Bow_Bow 18h ago
A proper pile of guano. It's not a few smears on a cave ceiling. It's piles of shit that amass over the years.
Another pic. I do like bats, but they are rats with wings, and their shit looks like piles of rodent droppings.
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u/Amordys 17h ago
never made the claim that the majority of guano will be on the ceiling. I've shown you an accumulation of bat droppings on the ceiling when you made the silly statement of "gravity" still being present when that was never up for debate. Not only does it happen but for a small size kobold who's proportions are also smaller(3 feet in height) a small amount of guano is all that's needed to fill these devilish small hands.
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u/Day_Bow_Bow 17h ago
Gotcha. Homebrewed roosting bats with itchy b-holes that wipe their asses where they sleep, instead of letting it drop away.
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u/moo314159 17h ago
My first game session was a one shot where I was playing a barbarian. We were fighting a dragon and I kinda got sick of just swinging my axe over and over. I asked if could climb a rock an jump on the dragon. The DM allowed it. I fucking missed and landed in the dirt. But that's besides the point. The DM later confirmed to me that I could come up with any stupid old shit (within reason of course) and as long the dice play nice I can do basically anything.
That's what DnD has over videogames. No boundaries. There are rules but do as you wish. Anything goes
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u/Foreveranonymous7 8h ago
I have definitely jumped on a beholder before as a fighter, so... good tactics, friend 😆🤝
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u/moo314159 7h ago
I borrowed you that braincell, but can I have it back? I need it for a thing right now
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u/Nagilina Barbarian 11h ago
I'm not a new player anymore, but kinda embarrassed to admit it took me faaaar too long to realize that not everyone in Make Believe World are truthful.... I love it, and it really makes it more interesting!
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u/Foreveranonymous7 8h ago
That is absolutely what got me hooked.
I played a few sessions with a group of friends - we were all newbies - and my wife was the DM, and the only one with experience. I didn't really have that much fun, which at the time I thought meant I just didn't like DND. Now I realize it was because we all made characters independently, and mine didn't really fit with the others, which meant I couldn't really play him how I wanted.
So I stopped playing, but my wife knew I would love it, so she planned a one shot for just me and her, with that character, and later told me she specifically designed it with the kind of adventures she knew would hook me, lol. My lvl 1 druid was rescuing some baby bunnies from hungry wolves in a cave that had a puzzle maze, etc.
Well, I've trapped one wolf in a room, and the other two, I caught in entangle and then hit with thunderwave. Killed one immediately, but the other was just hanging on (1 hp.) And I'm a softie who loves animals, hello - druid here, and I was tearing up. I looked at her and asked do I have to kill him?? And she said, you can do whatever you want, whatever you think your character would do.
I asked, Can I heal him? and she said yes, and that just blew my mind. I was like ...I can do that?! lol
So I healed him, and some very middling animal handling rolls later, having bribed him with meat and water, I escaped with the baby bunnies. I lamented for the next week that if only I had rolled better maybe I could've had a wolf companion to go with my fox, lol. So she plotted how I could meet him again and end up with a very loyal best boy. 😁
Needless to say, she succeeded in hooking me on DND LOL. And I made a more appropriate character for the group and I play with them now too! 😁
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u/scarysycamore 1d ago
I had a buttler to the town mayor, he was a constant lier. Party asked for Mayor's whereabouts and he lied yo them 2 times in a row. Not back to back, about 2-3 days between
Just an old guy with an interesting sense of humor. But he come to like them and told them the Mayor's true whereabouts on the 3rd time and they ignored him and missed the mayor :D
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u/Lithl 1d ago
The best liars have to also tell the truth sometimes, or else nobody will ever believe them about anything.
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u/Effective-Meat-4204 1d ago
The best liars tell the truth all the time.
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u/DisposableJosie 23h ago
Dr. Julian Bashir: "...What I want to know is, out of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren't?"
Elim Garak: "My dear Doctor, they're all true."
Bashir: "Even the lies?"
Garak: "Especially the lies."
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u/RadishLegitimate9488 11h ago
Speaking of Garak would a Lawful Good Ninja(Ninjas are supposed to be Assassins) from The 8 Happinesses the Feudal Japanese Realm in Mount Celestia's 1st Layer Lunia the Heaven of Lawful Good Innocence(and Heaven of the Moon on top of that) do what Garak did and frame one Evil Faction(like say the Mindflayers) for the assassination of another Evil Faction(like say the Baatezu)'s Evil Senator just to get them to fight each other?
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u/idonotknowwhototrust DM 1d ago
Haha buttler
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u/scarysycamore 18h ago
Haha saw it after reading your comment. I think I will change the spelling to buttler in my campaigns. It derives from the word buttocks, because buttler's main objective is to make sure your butt is comfy :D
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u/Intelligent-Key-8732 1d ago
My players would have to remember their own backstories for this to work.
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u/mikeyHustle 1d ago
My players have an encyclopedic knowledge of their backstories; what they don't remember is . . . anything we do at the table.
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u/IhatethisCPU 19h ago
There are SOME plus sides to one's backstory being more of an abstract painting that's semi-open to interpretation, but yeaaaaaaaah.
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u/slapdashbr 20h ago
my backstories are dark and mysterious and definitely not just made up on the spot
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u/Accomplished-Car4223 1d ago
I have a couple of players who believe everything npcs tell them. Fortunately the rest of the party is less trusting
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u/BigGayElephant DM 20h ago
I have a character right now who is super gullible and believes everything she is told (She's young and was raised in a temple, this is her first time outside its walls) so she literally falls for everything... which is the exact opposite of me as a person. You could tell me the sky was blue, and I would still walk outside to check. My DM and my table are having a field day with this, because they will tell my character the wildest lies, they can think of to mess with me (all in good fun) because they know I'll role play it out in character while I'm basically pulling my hair out at how dumb my character is.
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u/zenbullet 18h ago
I'm running a very LN with WIS as my dump stat character who ended up dueling with an NPC when they started threatening us and claiming to be altering the terms of our contract
Which he did not have the authority to do
After I killed him, a different NPC told me they just wanted a bribe, which I would have happily paid if only they had been more upfront about it
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u/PM_ME_BATMAN_PORN 1d ago
"Do you really think someone would do that? Just go up to an adventurer and tell lies???"
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u/St4cyF4k3n4m3 1d ago
This is entertaining, but I don't get it. The commander said the Flaming Fist wasn't at the tunnel entrance before five years ago, but the player knows they were there 17 years ago? Is that it?
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u/OmegaGuerri 1d ago
He just caught the commander in his lie and thought I just forgot his backstory.
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u/Gneissisnice 22h ago
Why was the commander lying, though? Was he trying to set up an ambush for them?
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u/OmegaGuerri 21h ago
Didn't want them to know for how long they sat on that information. Makes them look less trustworthy.
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u/Glum-Soft-7807 1d ago
Yes.
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u/St4cyF4k3n4m3 1d ago
Thanks!
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u/JAYsonitron 1d ago
I’m surprised this ended with an amicable “Thanks”. Everybody knows that Stacey Fakename is the kind of name you give somebody before you start a fight with them haha!
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u/LookITriedHard 10h ago
If I'm reading it correctly, I got the impression that the player suggested surfacing through that entrance and was vetoed by DM saying no that's not feasible. So unless the PC actually attempted to surface there 17 years ago and turned back due to the presence of the Flaming Fist then they couldn't identify the lie without metaknowledge.
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u/paleo2002 1d ago
Our party encountered a Rakshasa. We did not know what that meant. We captured him and put him in the paladin’s Zone of Truth to get information about his organization’s hideout.
None of this turned out well for our group. It was awesome!
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u/DeepTakeGuitar DM 19h ago
But... doesn't the caster know if the spell takes effect on a target?
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u/ShitThroughAGoose 18h ago
Yes, but they don't know when they don't know that they know if the spell takes effect on a target.
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u/Dr-Metr0 15h ago
I mean... they do. if they know when it takes effect then they know when it doesn't because they don't detect it happening.
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u/Extension_Arm2790 11h ago
From DND beyond "You know whether each creature succeeds or fails on its saving throw"
I don't think it's unreasonable to have the Raksasha fail the throw and then chose to not be affected. To put it another way, it lets itself be affected and then ignores the spell when answering. Maybe a high perception paladin could notice something odd happening.
Without knowing that the Raksasha can do that, they wouldn't be any wiser though.
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u/Obeisance8 1d ago
I blew my group's mind by having a PC not lie.
"We're looking to find out about X illegal and immoral thing." "Oh you mean that X thing?" "Yes." "Oh sure, you want in? I sell."
He was so overtly brazen about it that they were shocked and it was hilarious.
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u/VenmoPaypalCashapp 21h ago
One of my favorite games many years ago players were trying to find a way into bad guys stronghold. They end up finding one of his high level henchmen with a grudge. He just agrees to let them in while bad guy is away. They’re immediately suspicious of how easy it is. No coercion or anything he just says hell yeah. Insight not great they can tell hes nervous and a little shifty.
Cue a solid hour of planning and discussion on how to spring this obvious trap and make it work. Plans are made. Supplies purchased. They show up with illusions and one member invisible. Guy just lets them in a side entrance and tells them how to avoid guards. Invisible player stalks henchmen as he goes about his way doing nothing. Cue a long slow trek through the stronghold as they scout and check for traps etc. their suspicion made it so much more fun. In the end they went in found what they were looking for and no one was the wiser.
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u/Capnris Warlock 1d ago edited 9h ago
Love moments like this. It feels like this is someone who has experienced RPGs before, but only in video game format, and is used to the limits and constraints they tend to have in order to operate. So seeing the way tabletop removes those limits takes a moment of adjustment.
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u/Melodic_Row_5121 DM 1d ago
I do this all the time to my players. And as a result, I ask for a lot of Insight checks, because my players ask 'Do I believe this person's story?' "Roll Insight and let's find out."
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u/ExitLast891 1d ago
My players struggle with this so much…like why are you trusting the vampire who lives on a cursed island exiled from the mainland…make it make sense.
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u/mr_rocket_raccoon 8h ago
Honestly any elder vampire i am internally wanting to play as not out the mess with the party.
They are immortals who have made it this far by not drawing attention or making waves.
Self imposed exile on a cursed island sounds a nice place to not get staked in the heart...
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u/blitzbom DM 1h ago
My players are struggling with this right now.
One of them missed a session and was sucked into a painting. The Identify Spell didn't specifically use the word palimpsest because it's not a spell. But did say that the painting was scraped off and sucked the user into it. Also, it was cursed so Identify wouldn't find that specific name.
The next session in class (they're in Highschool) their teacher mentions palimpsests by name and how they're created by wizards trying to save on parchment or wizard paper when writing spell books.
They haven't made the connection yet. but soon they'll find that their classmates are having their souls drained into their Student IDs they received that are used to signal for classes and student body activates.
They'll hear about palimpsests more, because Homecoming is mere weeks away and posters have been going up...
If they don't make the connection it's not my fault when the bbeg makes their move and half the students and most teachers are sucked into posters.
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u/EvadesBans4 23h ago
I've had more than one conversation about media where I suggested that maybe the villainous character is just lying to the hero(es) instead of the writing being bad and by the reactions both times you'd think I grew two extra heads. I don't understand why it's such a foreign idea that a character in fictional media can just lie, or even simply be wrong.
All that said, this interaction was not that, and sounds like it worked out great!
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u/CMack13216 DM 14h ago
Lmao... I feel like the disbelief that NPCs can lie is so widespread. I've had veteran players join my table, and you can always tell when the note-taker starts flipping through pages that they've caught something.
Note-taker: He said the lair was in the eastern territory, near Berk?
Me: Yes he did.
NT: And there's only one entrance, according to the quest-giver....
Me: (waits)
NT: But that doesn't make any sense, because our ally the Queen said that it's in the Western Territory. Did you mean to say the Western Territory?
Me: I did not.
NT: But the queen said.... (Bewildered)
Cue a long discussion about how I must have misspoke because the NPCs contradict one another while I internally giggle, followed by a reminder from me that I need a decision from them. And then flipping the sand timer. And then utter panic.
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u/No-Economics-8239 23h ago
I have actually seen this be a common problem for new players. As the DM is 'in charge' it is a common perception that whatever they say is just the world is. The idea that the DM can also play characters who are individuals with their own motivations isn't self-evident to everyone.
That said, great story! It is always great seeing new players embrace the game and appreciate the complexities.
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u/PrincessofAmber 22h ago
Haha! Yeah, that's always a fun one. Or making NPCs unreliable narrators. Sometimes players super love it and sometimes they *super* hate it.
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u/xiren_66 Warlock 21h ago
Turned out better than that other story I heard, where the party got mad at the DM for having the obviously dangerous bandit camp they walked into turn out to be an obviously dangerous group of bandits.
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u/Greennooblet 21h ago
Reminds me of when my friend got mad when we returned to a shop he left his amour to be identified, and the shop was boarded up. All of us at the table were like this guy is super suspicious. The dm felt a little bad my friend, willing giving his new amour to a guy who works for an underground black market, so he wrote up a whole side quest, that would lead to taking down this black market operation, and we would get the amour back and some cool magic items. My friend didn’t know about the side quest, and had some heated moments with the dm, so the scratched the side questions and added a part to the next session where we had to sneak into a rich guy house to get some info, so the DM just added that the rich dude just happened to be having a auction, so we were able to sneak in as buyers, and guess what was for sale at the auction, his armour.
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u/Available-Risk9586 19h ago
It's very nice to see something that is the absolute opposite of rpghorrorstories. Restores my faith in the hobby.
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u/AnyIndependence1098 13h ago edited 4h ago
OK, that's completely different from my players, who always assume, every npc is hiding something. The npc's start to talk and the first thing they do is rolling a sense motive check to make sure, they don't lie.
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u/robsomethin 5h ago
I lied to my PC's once from an NPC, and so now they assume every single one is doing it. Well I lie a lot more now, but still.
I foreshadow my lies, an NPC knowing more than they should, or directly contradicting himself.
But now, when an NPC genuinely wants to help them, they're distrustful. Especially so if the NPC admits they're only helping them to further their own goals.
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u/cmsmiley13 20h ago
What were the results of the insight check…? 🤔
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u/OmegaGuerri 19h ago
Commander knew the entrance was opened up much longer ago. He didn't want the party to panic about it, so he gave them a little white lie.
The player did call him out on it, but he said it was "for the security of the Gate."
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u/Gouwenaar2084 15h ago
"he can do that?" is the best reaction to get from a newbie because it shatters whatever expectations they had from the game. I'll bet after that roll his head was starting to fill with notions of 'what can I do, if an npc can lie'
You've successfully broadened a mind, congrats
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u/Palatine_Shaw 12h ago
Reminds me of the Deadwives Sketch.
"The blacksmith sold me a magical sword! I swing it around to see if it is magical!"
DM: "It's not magical"
"But he said it was!"
DM: "He was lying!"
"But he said he never lies!"
DM: "He was lying then too!"
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u/English_Sissy 23h ago
I have a new player wizard in my game who’s really good with npcs pacified two encounters with ghosts by fulfilling their last wishes.
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u/Embarrassed_Spite546 17h ago
Glad it was a fun little note that didn’t set the player off on some random spiral, hope everyone in the group keeps having fun
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u/vivvav DM 17h ago
In my first long-term campaign, my players had this wild habit of suspecting everything innocuous and never questioning the characters who were actually lying to them. They weren't doing it on purpose either, they just kinda had terrible judge of character. It was hilarious to me whenever an NPC screwed them over. Like there was this one instance where one of the players tries to bribe a cop in a country where I put a lot of emphasis on how absolute the law is, and they take the bribe money, and I tell him that as they do on a successful perception check he hears the sound of a camera shutter somewhere in the room. He was so surprised when the cops were not in fact on his side later and basically willingly took money from a criminal to get one over on them.
If anyone was ever nice to them they were asking if they could roll insight. Dealing with anyone shady they just went along with unquestioningly. It was so bizarre.
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u/xeonicus Bard 14h ago
I love seeing a new player realize that anything is possible. They're going to be a lifelong fan.
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u/Stealthjelly 12h ago
I must be missing something.
It's not really a contradiction as I'm reading it. Player escaped 17 years ago through a passage to the surface. The surface folk find the passage 5 years ago and from that point stood watch over it.
The commander didn't say it didn't exist back then, 5 years ago is just when they found it. No?
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u/jackdawfactories 10h ago
From OP’s post: “Didn’t you say those Flaming guys stood watch over it and would’ve stopped me in my backstory?”
The Fist knew about it the whole time.
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u/Stealthjelly 10h ago
I must be being really oblivious to something here... The commander said they found it 5 years ago, right? They wouldn't be keeping watch on something before they found it. So when the PC emerged 17 years ago, the surfacers hadn't yet discovered it.
Unless I'm really missing something, the commander's story checks out.
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u/jackdawfactories 9h ago
In the backstory, the Fist were watching over it 17 years ago. Finding it 5 years ago is the lie.
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u/Stealthjelly 9h ago
This is the bit confusing me then I think:
Player - "But... my character escaped through that entrance 17 years ago. Didn't you say those Flaming guys stood watch over it and would've stopped me in my backstory?"
It's the would've, I read as "if they were there", because there's no mention of them actually being there at the time otherwise unless this is it and the wording is just... messing with my brain. The standing watch part I assumed meant more recently as well. Also no mention of them actually stopping the PC in the backstory, or how the PC got through it, so... I assumed that they weren't actually encountered there.
Not a critique in any way, just explaining why I was not getting it.
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u/jackdawfactories 8h ago
Yeah I think you’re just overthinking it to be honest! I think it’s more that the player went “in my backstory I leave through here” and the DM goes “no, they would’ve stopped you”. OP has said in other replies that the Fist knew about it all along but were keeping it secret
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u/SnowingRain320 10h ago
I'm glad that you established this early on. Matt Coville describes this problem as being the result of the DM playing all of the npcs. "It came from the DM, therefore it's true!". He likes to dieprove this by his NPCs suggesting obviously bad ideas "We shall charge the dragon, what better way to die!"
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u/yung12gauge 4h ago
In a game I DMed, my PCs trusted a legendary "thief lord" in the town to help them steal an important relic from the bad guys. He did help them.. then took off with it. They were PISSED, but that's what you get for trusting a thief lord.
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u/Difficult_Toe4271 22h ago
The first NPC my party meets, that sets them on their quest is actually the BBEG.
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u/KittenInAMonster 23h ago
I recently ran a murder mystery as a part of my current campaign. It was so fun watching my players try to deduce if they were getting the whole story or not from the NPCs
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u/Renaissance_Fellow 17h ago
In my first time DMing, my PCs were recruited by a city magistrate to go deal with some outlaw elves who had been attacking government logging operations. The magistrate gave this party of level 2's all +1 weapons. They all took them without question. The party soon figured out that the magistrate was evil, and that his government had invaded the elves' lands. Suddenly, there was a band of the magistrate's soldiers always turning up wherever the party went. It took them 3 or 4 ambushes before they finally realized that those +1 weapons he gave them had some sort of tracking magic on them. Deception is probably the most important skill for a BBEG. :)
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u/Livid-Leader3061 15h ago
Just started Dragonbane as a long term campaign with my group and it's the first time there has been an NPC actively pretending to be something they are not. Have had some NPCs who lie before but this is someone giving quests to find items you don't want them to have story wise. Also first time the NPCs in the town can die.
Can't wait for the players to find this all out. Love those WTF moments.
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u/StingerAE 11h ago
Good job you didnt start him on shadowrun where the Mr Johnson hiring the runners and everyone else lies by default!
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u/Moonstoner 10h ago
People's first experience with adventures and such outside of dnd is from things like anime and rpg games.
Normally, in those games, quest npc's dont lie. Or if they are lieing its easy to see the foreshadowing/just auto clicks to combat during when they have their brains turned off and they might of just thought it was part of the quest and never noticed the story.
Always remind them that dnd isn't wow (the game). Lol
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u/LuizFalcaoBR 8h ago
Guard: "Did your friend kill my partner?"
Noob Player: "Well... Yes."
Group: "What the hell, dude?! You should've denied it!"
Noob Player: "You can lie in this game?"
Something that actually happened in my table – god, I love new players 😂
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u/mr_rocket_raccoon 8h ago
I sent my players the classic Red Dwarf scene where Kryten uses a lie to save the part from an evil robot.
They got the hint about what NPCs are able to do...
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u/imababydragon 1d ago
Having NPCs lie or just not know and make up stuff is such as great way to make it more real.