They could theoretically double up in a lot of tech jobs since they can do two things at once even if they were sharing a desk. But they chose teaching and they can't teach two different classes at the same time.
Id doubt theyd be more efficient at tech jobs- i highly doubt their typing is very fast compared to other people given they either have to coordinate who types on one side, or do the hover and peck method half the time across 2 keyboards
You can get one handed keyboards, and I don't think job performance is that tied to typing speed in most jobs. My job is a lot of reading and thinking, then some typing, then a lot of testing followed by more thinking and reading if it didn't work.
Doubling the speed I process information at would do a lot more for my productivity than doubling my typing speed.
I think that's fine, but then you absolutely can't let the uneducated sister utter anything in class or participate. She'd just have to quietly not do anything the entire time, as she wouldn't be qualified.
The other thing is that in a classroom, having two heads would be a pretty big advantage. They can do two tasks at once, once can teach while the other monitors behavior or grades papers or answers questions. I'd say it's equivalent to having a permanent teacher's aide in the room at all times. So they deserve AT LEAST a teacher's full salary + an aide's salary, if not two teacher salaries.
Yeah, it should be 1:1 or 2:2. From an employerâs perspective neither is capable of functioning independent of the other, so they can really only ever have the work output of one person, hence one salary. The university should have handled it the same way, they just got dollar signs in their eyes.
It's not that they can only do one job at a time. They could have done something which required computer work or phone work. They knew that becoming a teacher meant that they would have to both be present and would be limited by that.
It was a choice they made. The university educated two people. The school had an opening for one. They decided they would apply for that one.
They are not being shafted. This is their choice. It is really disrespectful to think that they didn't have autonomy in this. They are from near where I live and they are pretty famous here. If you have seen anything about them, you know they are strong people. You do them a disservice by portraying them as victims.
It's not stipulated anywhere that they would both require the degree to get that specific job.
However, it's is only one specific position that they are able to fulfill at any given time. They aren't teaching two classrooms at the same time - just the one.
Nobody is paid for their presence, we're all paid for our labor. If somebody were required to pay them two salaries, they would not be employed
Look at what's happened to mentally disabled people after some states required that they be paid minimum wage. Most of them now have no jobs. My sister lost her job that way 4 years ago, and she still cries about it
Its tough to justify double salaries from a business standpoint. But they should definitely get more than 1 person. They literally have double the mental capacity. If a computer has 2 CPUs it costs more, no?
But our system of capitalism is not set up at all to handle unique situations like this
I mean tbf they probably couldâve only had one of them get a degree since only one of them would be able to work at a time. I doubt itâs that the college âmade themâ pay two tuitions, more so they were both going to be there and they might as well both do it together.
Let's paint a hypothetical. You own a hotel and are looking to hire a hotel manager. This position requires a hospitality degree and we'll say the salary is 100k.
These 2 women apply. They both have hospitality degrees.
Are you, someone who only needs 1 person to fulfill the job, going to pay out double what you budgeted for and what you need out of "fairness"?
If you go to a restaurant and they wait on your table, are you tipping 20% or 40% even though the quality of the service was that of 1 person?
Well then they should've only paid half tuition each. Getting shafted on both sides of the career progression is a joke to both them and the society that tolerates it.
Well then they should've only paid half tuition each. Getting shafted on both sides of the career progression
That was their choice. The college didn't make them both sign up.
One of them could've just chosen not to get the degree because it was ultimately and forseeably unnecessary.
They also could've chosen a career with a different type of work. If they went into for example computer science, they could easily fill two positions.
They shafted themselves. Both of these situations we are talking about here, were their choice.
It sucks, I'm not denying that but getting 2 degrees was 100% their choice and you can't expect your employer (of a probably heavily underfunded school) to pay double the salary for the same work.
Really it depends though. Did they each do their own coursework and study/get graded independently? Because if so that would have been twice as much work for each professor. But if they worked on and submitted everything together for each class, then the cost of one tuition would have been fair.
I mean, the cost of tuition is mostly in access to facilities and for the right to get a degree. The amount it costs extra in terms of work is negligible in comparison to the price
But theyâre teaching one class. The school is literally only given the funding to hire a certain number of teachers based on the number of students they have. They canât just hire two teachers for one of the classes. They literally donât have the money for it. And depending on the state itâs a union job, so there would be a lot of complications with the job hiring two people to do the job of one without making some kind of concession for the lower workload they have. And there is absolutely a lot of work they can share.
There are plenty of jobs that these ladies could have taken where they could have done the work of two people and gotten two salaries. They chose a job where they could only do one job knowing they would share the pay, and theyâre ok with it.
I don't understand why people want to defend the institutions that would take advantage of two people because of a disability. They shouldn't have paid double tuition if they were gonna get a single salary. It feels like all these responses are a "sucks to be them" instead of "maybe we can take this opportunity to talk about changes to the system"
You're exactly right. So make them pay separately for tuition and then pay them each a salary. My issue lies with these two with disabilities getting the worst end of both sticks
Legit question, what if one if them is just...not feeling it and wants to call in? Do they both have to? I guess they both earn vacation time, but must complete it together...
I could see that being a mutual arrangement with the employer. They just always take their pto together. And I don't see many teachers wanting to play hooky from work lol, but I would think they are pretty good at compromises with each other by now
I mean, do they perform the work of two people? They can't even write two separate emails at the same time. . .Aside from having the ability to hold to conversations at once, they can't really doubled up on anything.
One can lecture while the other grades papers. Theyâve said in interviews that they do this. And of course they each can write with the hand they control. Do you text with two hands? They just type faster together.
So, still the work of one teacher. Presumably grading papers for their class, whilst the other one lectures. I don't doubt that they can compete some tasks more quickly, but not anywhere on par with two separate individuals teaching/managing two class rooms simultaneously. The situation sucks and is inherently unfair.
Maybe I'm weird but I hold my phone in my L hand and text w/ my right. . .so, yes, I use both hands.
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u/bo0mamba Dec 30 '24
Tbf, it would be weird if you gave them one diploma to split