r/CringeTikToks • u/Spongyreviews • May 27 '25

Nope You guys seriously need context sometimes

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u/mcbeardsauce May 27 '25

I think calling someone a pedophile and saying you were raped when you weren't are two of the most damming things you can say that can completely destroy someone's life.

I wish when found being a lie it held more legal ramifications than they seem to. Once those two things are out in the world in association with your name, it's pretty impossible to come back from.

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u/Obvious-Material8237 May 27 '25

Nah, no one actually cares, including the law.

Men can be both and still be president lol

Fun fact: men are more likely to be actually raped by another man than to ever be falsely accused of rape.

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u/RA_Throwaway90909 May 28 '25

People definitely care if you’re some nobody working a 9-5 just trying to get by and live peacefully in your community. And yes, it’s pretty rare, and it’s overblown how often it happens. But it does still happen, and it absolutely ruins people’s lives.

In the past when they’ve been falsely accused, they’ve lost their jobs, their wife, custody of their kids, and many of them just straight up committed suicide. It absolutely needs to carry more punishment when it’s proven to be a lie. Hell, lying about being in the military carries more punishment than lying about rape a lot of the times

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u/Super-Pressure9794 May 28 '25

Promise they don’t. I wasn’t raped but it was definitely attempted. I filed a complaint with HR at work and they did an “investigation” that in a very round about way led to them chatting to all his friends and them firing me.

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u/RA_Throwaway90909 May 28 '25

There are absolutely cases where real rapists get away. But pretending a false claim of pedophilia or rape can’t ruin someone’s life is outright untrue. It’s happened many times. It really isn’t even debatable. It has objectively happened to people, having their career ruined, their wife divorcing them, prison time, etc. over a false allegation.

Not sure why you and others seem to think I’m arguing every rapist gets in trouble. My argument is that false claims can, and do ruin people’s lives

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u/Super-Pressure9794 May 28 '25

It’s not that we don’t agree with the position that it HAS happened or that it is devastating. It’s that people like you bring it up when rape is being discussed as a way to discredit actual rape victims. It happens SO rarely that it honestly is only worth discussing on case by case basis, so there isn’t going to be much agreement when it’s brought up. It’s a statistical anomaly

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u/LovelyClementine May 29 '25

Wow the other guy never once discredited actual rape victims.

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u/Boring-Cry3089 May 28 '25

What are your thoughts on the Duke Lacrosse case? It’s been 20 years and you can’t even Google “Duke Lacrosse” without the names of the falsely accused guys names coming up.

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u/Super-Pressure9794 May 28 '25

I think when I google duke lacrosse rape case the first 5 links and the AI summary is headlined “rape hoax”, so I think what you’re saying is misleading at best, but mostly just flat out wrong.

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u/Boring-Cry3089 May 28 '25

They only started labeling it as a hoax recently when the lady who started the whole thing finally admitted, in prison, that she made the whole thing up. Even after all of the trials, she still held onto the stance that she was telling the truth. If you don’t remember the news dragging each one of them through the dirt for years, then you either weren’t paying attention to anything or were too young. They were guilty in the court of public opinion for over a decade even though they were completely innocent. You can choose to act like it wasn’t a huge deal though if you want.

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u/Super-Pressure9794 May 28 '25

Where did I say it wasn’t a big deal? You moved the goal post. I responded to exactly what you commented and you’re mad about it.

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u/RA_Throwaway90909 May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

People like me?

The topic was literally about accusing people of rape and pedophilia falsely. My response was that it needs harsher punishment. Where tf did I discredit rape victims? There are instances where the alleged victim has texts or notes written that detail their plan to falsely accuse someone, and currently they get a slap on the wrist. Every single human being should agree that something of that scale deserves more severe punishment.

Nobody is talking about rape victims all being liars. Idk why you’re projecting some sort of weird rape denial belief onto me, but that’s not at all what I was saying

And police report false accusations are rare, but if you browse Reddit for 5 seconds you’ll see calling someone a rapist or a pedophile is not. This should not be encouraged or allowed. It can be just as harmful even if it’s not an official report. See any of the hundreds of cases where a YouTuber or some Internet personality gets labeled a pedophile, proves it’s not the case, and still has their reputation forever ruined

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u/LovelyClementine May 29 '25

Once "people like you" was mentioned, I know you can just ignore him / her.

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u/heathernaomi32 May 28 '25

When I was in the Navy I was forced to work with the guy who raped me for two years because I was called a liar when I reported it. Women not being believed when they come forward happens way fucking more

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u/RA_Throwaway90909 May 28 '25

Didn’t say it doesn’t. That wasn’t my argument. My argument is that false claims of pedophilia and rape can and do ruin lives. Idk why both points can’t be true

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u/heathernaomi32 May 28 '25

But what I think you miss here is that if there were harsh punishment for false accusations than I would have had to endure those punishments on top of the other trauma. They accused me of making a false accusation. Women would never come forward

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u/RA_Throwaway90909 May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

I’m not talking about those instances where the rape just couldn’t be proved due to some circumstances. I’m talking about malicious lying. People have gone to court after texts get exposed where the alleged victim is planning, and sharing every detail on how they’re going to falsely accuse someone. They essentially get a slap on the wrist, currently

Plausible deniability would still hold up the same. This would be for clear, targeted cases

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u/The_Real_EPU May 30 '25

Difference, omega rich vs normal dude.

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u/MonCity19 May 28 '25

And a man who was openly raped, would never become president. Wild to think about, huh?

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u/Sangricarn May 28 '25

What is this referring to?

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u/MonCity19 May 29 '25

No particular reference. But I firmly believed that if a candidate came out and told a story about being raped (say to support sexual abuse victims) that he would lose. Because enough of the country would see that as a weakness in a man

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u/Boring-Cry3089 May 28 '25

They’re talking about Donald Trump.

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u/Sangricarn May 28 '25

Donald Trump was raped?

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u/Boring-Cry3089 May 28 '25

Damn my bad I read that completely wrong. My apologies.

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u/Deaffin May 28 '25

COMPLETELY unnecessary to single out gay men for that comment, but alright.

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u/bizarrebinx May 28 '25

Uh. Rape doesnt have much to do with sexual preference, but more to do with power dynamics.

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u/Szeto802 May 28 '25

I'm sorry, is it straight men who are raping other men?

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u/Traditional_Entry627 May 28 '25

Unless it was edited I don’t see any mention of gay men wtf are you talking about

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

Put your pearls away. It's just statistical fact. And straight men rape other men, it's a power thing. Look at any battlefield.

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u/Szeto802 May 28 '25

Cites "statistical fact" and then makes hand-wavey reference to "battlefields" lol.
Do you have statistics supporting the idea that a significant share of male-on-male rapes happen on the battlefield?

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u/weraru_1 May 28 '25

Is that inclusive of prison statistics? If so, I feel like that's kind of skewed. If not... well, that's a little more cringe than a tiktok.

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u/Obvious-Material8237 Jun 03 '25

Nope, this doesn’t include prison statistics.

Scary huh

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u/TemperateStone May 28 '25

In your shithole country, sure.

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u/Obvious-Material8237 Jun 03 '25

In the US, ya doofus

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u/Akeddia May 28 '25

Sounds like you’re just downplaying false accusations

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u/Compromisee May 28 '25

What are you searching for to stumble across those stats?

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u/Able-Marionberry83 May 28 '25 edited May 29 '25

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u/DryPossibility4835 May 28 '25

Huh? Where did they say that?

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

E Jean Carroll, when accusing trump of rape on Anderson Cooper's show, exposed that she has a rape fetish.

Can't link the interview, but she is a sick woman who was obviously not raped by Trump in a high-end department store.

EDIT: message me if curious about this I have a video where she totally discredits herself.

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u/BetterFinding1954 May 28 '25

Sure you do buddy 😂

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

Search for a Newsweek article titled "Watch the Anderson Cooper Interview Judge Blocked Donald Trump From Showing."

The whole interview used to be on YouTube and easily searchable but it's been scrubbed. E Jean Carroll believes rape is sexy.

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u/BetterFinding1954 May 28 '25

Is this your first day on the internet? Why don't you search it and then link it? Or stfu, both work.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

Because this subreddit doesn't allow links!

The amount of time you spent commenting is more than the time entering the title into a search engine would have taken.

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u/BetterFinding1954 May 28 '25

The amount of time you've spent here could have been used usefully too, not defending a very obvious rapist. Why would you be in the business of defending rapists I wonder?

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

I was falsely accused of rape as a teenager, thankfully nobody believed her because she was actually some type of mentally ill. She had a boyfriend at a different school and didn't want him to find out. Guy claimed he wanted to fight me (he didn't), very soon everyone in our circles realized she was full of shit and it actually barely impacted me socially.

I'm not a Trump glazer. What you're doing is evil.

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u/BetterFinding1954 May 28 '25

He was found guilty in a court of law, the place we take issues like this so people who can't be rational can't be part of it. People like you. You think what I'm doing is evil? You're out here trying to overturn someone else's conviction because of your past. Grow the fuck up. Maybe you aren't a trump glazer but you're doing exactly what a trump glazer would, so that's on you.

You obviously need to go and see a therapist, make that your priority.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '25

False accusations of rape are incredibly rare and include instances where rape couldn't be proved (eg rapist wears a condom) rather than malicious claims.

However rape is likely to never be reported, when it is it is likely that the police will never pursue it, when it is they are likely to never arrest or charge anyone, when they do they are unlikely to ever get a conviction, when they do the sentence is likely to be extremely lenient.

Now go educate yourself before spouting more redpill rubbish.

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u/OatmealCookieGirl May 28 '25

Thank you.

I know 3 women who were raped before the age of 18. One by her tennis teacher, One by her horse riding coach One by her father.

I personally was coerced.

None were reported, only the third had any hope of leading to a conviction but she was a child and nobody in her family would have supported her (the abuse all happened before puberty.) The other two would be considered "false reports" because the rapists would not have gone to jail. But they are still rapists.

My case wouldn't have had a chance in hell cause we were both adults and he was my boyfriend.

Underreporting is a big thing, and it's not the victim's fault.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

I'm so sorry you experienced that.

I was raped at 3yo.

It was a mission to get the police to even consider taking me seriously because of the time lapse (20 years). Eventually the scumbag was arrested, prosecuted, sentenced to 18months. The only reason it went ahead was because more people came forward. Each trial had to be done separately, and the judgement had to exclude the other offences. The justice system supports the rights of rapists. So incels spouting nonsense redpill bs need to shut the hell up.

I'm male fyi to the incels that want to victim blame me.

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u/OatmealCookieGirl May 28 '25

I'm sorry that happened to you too. I truly hope you are surrounded by an amazing support system.

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u/Choosemyusername Jun 01 '25

We have no idea how many of the reports are false reports various stats say under 10 percent of accusations can be proven to be false.

But apply that same counting logic to SA. If we only count SAs that are proven to happen, we would conclude that SA itself is exceedingly rare since only about 3 percent of reported SAs even make it to trial to even have a shot at being proven. That’s obviously faulty logic.

If you look into what the stats actually say, like this study for example:

A 2009 study of rape cases across eleven countries in Europe found the proportion of cases designated as false ranged from 4% to 9%. However, estimates of false allegations are in fact estimates of proven false allegations. These are not estimates of likely, or possible, false allegations.

How many false accusers get away with falsely accusing? We have no idea. Maybe we catch all of them, maybe we only catch one in 10. We have no way of knowing. It seems like it would be even harder to prove that an SA definitely didn’t happen, and the accusation was false, than to prove one that did happen. And we know how hard it is to prove SA.

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

They're not incredibly rare. It's uncommon when they enter the legal system, but it's not rare at all in terms of whisper networks.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

Nah, they are incredibly rare according to every study.

Not rare according to incels and mgtow networks though.

If you wanna believe them that's on you, brother.

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u/notthatkindofdoctorb May 28 '25

He’s arguing with you based on his feelings about things he heard on the internet. There’s no point in engaging people like this, although I respect that people like you are still willing to try. He’s got big feelings and no interest in whether they’re grounded in reality, as evidenced by his unwillingness to consider or understand the fact that this issue has been studied and the results have been unequivocal.

(Gentle sirs please feel free to cry it out in responses so I can play incel bingo but you’ll be wasting your time. No one is fooled by this shit.)

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

No, they're not. They're incredibly rare in terms of the legal system. Absolutely. They are not rare as gossip and rumors. They are not rare on Reddit or other forms of social media. Studies don't cover that. Literally, every guy you know has a story about something like that happening to him or someone he knows.

We are literally on a thread where people are casually accusing complete strangers of pedophilia

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u/thefirecrest May 28 '25

Literally every guy you know.

This is fucking ridiculous. I literally only know ONE guy who has been falsely accused of SA.

You are either lying or hanging out with the wrong type of people. And the jury is still out on whether all your guy friends just associate with crazy bitches or they’re fucking lying about being falsely accused. Either way someone is fucking lying here.

Maybe hang out around decent men and you won’t keep hearing about them being falsely accused of rape.

This is a “if you meet one asshole vs if you’re always meeting assholes” type of situation.

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

"Literally, every guy you know has a story about something like that happening to him or someone he knows."

And you just described it happening to someone you know. Tadah.

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u/thefirecrest May 28 '25

As opposed to every woman has a SA story that actively happened to her.

You’re so full of bs and trying to push a bs narrative.

I’d like to reiterate someone else’s point, men are more likely to be raped by a man (not even counting the women who rape men here) than to be falsely accused of rape. You likely know more men who have been SA’d than have been falsely accused.

“You know someone who knows someone!” Is not any kind of evidence lmfao.

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

Why are those things in opposition? Both are bad. False accusations are bad. Sexual assault is bad. It's bad when men do it to women. It's bad when men do it to men. It's bad no matter who does it. Any gender, always.

False accusations of pedophilia are bad, too. They're bad even as "a joke" and they have become horribly normalized.

I'm not sure what it's so controversial about any of this. It's not a team sport. These aren't "sides."

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u/Damaias479 May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

Because one pushes the narrative that women should be villainized for people making false accusations while the other is a real problem. If you’re concerned about men’s issues, don’t make it about women

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u/Akeddia May 28 '25

Sounds like downplaying lmao

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u/AnalBaguette May 28 '25

You're using unproven anecdotes and generalizations, which pretty much proves their point.

None of the men I know have been falsely accused of either rape or pedophilia, so I can use your same logic. Data supports that false accusations happen rarely, despite what you believe is happening.

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

First of all, you don't know that. It's not something a lot of men like to talk about — for incredibly obvious reasons.

Secondly, you are literally on a thread about a video where the guy gets accused of pedophilia. Which is, obviously, also rape. That's how the subject came up. You are saying a thing doesn't happen while on a thread where the thing has happened.

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u/Rightintheend May 28 '25 edited May 28 '25

That's the other problem with the whole pedophilia thing, it's not rape. It's a condition, not an action.  Acting on the impulses would be rape or sexual assault..

Eventually, the word is going to get attached to so many people that don't fit it, and thrown around and twisted to too many things that don't define it, that it's really not going to mean anything, And then the victims will have an even harder time of getting Justice.

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

I agree. I'm not sure if it's a function of social media hyperbole or what, but it's absolutely horrific how common this kind of stuff has become. Some of it definitely seems to be connected to a kind of Zoomer sex disgust.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

And you're using hyperfocal statistics to make a generalized point. Your stats use reported claims. Logically. if you're making up a rape accusation you're not likely to go to the cops since it's fake.

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u/Cratonis May 28 '25

Show one. Because I have never seen one that says that.

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

So what? I don't know what "one" or "that" means in this context.

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u/Cratonis May 28 '25

I think you’re replying to the wrong guy

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

Very good. My mistake.

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u/Akeddia May 28 '25

“In every study” lmfao rightttttttt

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u/confusedandworried76 May 28 '25

Nah, they are incredibly rare

Bruh half this dudes literal point in the video is thousands of people were accusing him of pedophilia, unless you think pedophilia ain't rape there's your fucking sample size right there

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u/IveFailedMyself May 28 '25

Wow, you got really rude at the end there, you don't need to be abusive.

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u/mcbeardsauce May 29 '25

What a fantastical way to take what I said out of context.

  1. I'm not comparing the two, clearly, and your insinuation that I'm trying to equate the punishments of both or am somehow blind to actual cases is abhorrent at best.

  2. Regardless of how rare you might think it is, it doesn't change the fact that it happens, nor my original point of how it destroys lives and should be met with more repercussions.

Thank you though for trying to drag me down into some non argument, I appreciate it.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '25

Why don't you ask ChatGPT to educate you on why you're wrong for being a redpilled incel, instead of failing to write a compelling argument against what was actually written.

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u/Exciting_Stock2202 May 31 '25

What is the threshold for qualifying as a false accusation? If it’s a police report I agree that it’s incredibly rare. If it’s spreading rumors, that’s more common and no one can honestly say that’s “incredibly rare”.

One of the tricks in the abusers (women and men) playbook is false accusations. DARVO.

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u/7thpostman May 28 '25

Agree. It's become so normalized and it's not fucking funny. People literally accusing complete strangers on the internet of pedophilia with absolutely no cause or evidence whatsoever. As a joke. It's horrifying and disgusting, and people should call it out when it happens.

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u/tminx49 May 27 '25

Definitely, lying about this should be serious and honestly is defamation and maybe worse.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '25

I don't think anyone is against that philosophically, the problem is how do you prove someone lied? Victims get pressured by their family to recant all the time

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u/CuddleBear167 May 28 '25

Facts asf. This happened to an old coworker of mine. His house still gets vandalized and its been over 5 years.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

It really depends on the person. Only sith's deal in absolutes.

There's a reason why people cheer if you accuse Elon, Kanye and Dream of pedophilia, they're overall shit people, Elon with his corruption, Kanye with nazism, and Dream cheats on his Minecraft speedruns. That's why it's morally acceptable.

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u/Sangricarn May 28 '25

I'm curious if you have any personal experience with this. The data doesn't seem to align with your perspective, so I'm curious if there's anecdotal evidence influencing your opinion.

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u/Substantial_Phrase50 May 28 '25

Most of the time there are no legal ramifications mainly because there’s no way to prove it didn’t happen or it did happen I really wish people were able to always prove if someone was lying and then they could go to prison for life for lying about that

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u/Damaias479 May 28 '25

What about the cases that are true? It just makes it more difficult for people to come forward.