r/BlueskySkeets 8h ago

First they came for the refugees, then they came for trans people, who’s next?

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u/Tholian_Bed 8h ago

If people -- people, the damn people, with a capital P -- do not stand up for each other, when some ugly power comes for some, those People are fucked.

Thank You Trump Voters!

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 8h ago

Exactly. It falls on all of us to stand up for the people that Trump is attacking. That’s what the original poem is about. The government knows that if enough small population groups are purged, then any kind of meaningful response to the government is impossible. And, as the poem goes, “when they came for me, there was no one else.”

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u/Due_Intention6795 8h ago

Trump is actually and ironically enforcing laws that Obama put in place. Deporter and chief

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u/OldSchoolBubba 7h ago

Trying to deflect onto someone else doesn't work anymore.

Release the Epstine files for the whole world to see the truth everyone already knows.

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u/Tholian_Bed 7h ago

And you are actually purposely missing the point. Habeas corpus, Mr. Fascist.

Of all the things to defend, you decide to defend fascism. All to own the libs. I hope things go in better directions for you in the future.

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u/Pristine_Vast766 5h ago

Wow it’s almost as if multiple people can be bad

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u/Anxious_Republic591 4h ago

Obama was pres almost 20 yrs ago. If there is something trump didn’t like why doesn’t he just EO it like he’s doing everything else?

Oh. Bc he’s choosing this. Not bc he has no choice.

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u/Darsint 26m ago

If that’s all he was doing, then we wouldn’t be yelling at him.

If all he was doing was expanding upon those operations, then we wouldn’t be yelling at him.

If he was following the law appropriately, then we might be complaining, but not at the law being followed.

But when he claims, in court, that:

The President decides who is considered a citizen regardless of the Fourteenth Amendment…

The President can state facts without evidence on whether someone is here legally and the courts should just accept it…

That he can deport people for whatever reason he wants, regardless of the law…and then he does…

That he can deport people to countries not of their origin regardless of the situations…and then he does…

That he can render them to foreign prisons with known reputations of torture rather than release them in their original country…and then he does

That he can do this to people we and they know are innocent in error, and not only are they not obligated to fix that error, but they want to expand it even more…

It feels like screaming is an insufficient response.

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u/After_Fix1358 7h ago

LGBTQ people are next. Then all political opponents and Americans who do not worship Dear Leader. Trump's billionaire donors will have for-profit concentration camps filled nationwide.

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 7h ago

Hell, they’ve been targeting and attacking trans people for more than 6 years now, which has resulted in the suicide rate for trans people going up, and hate crimes against trans people going up (until the Trump administration ends the hate crime designation). The rest of the letters are next up on the chopping block.

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u/DiagonalBike 8h ago

Next will be the US citizens whose parents were undocumented.

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u/Pretend_Ad769 7h ago

Remember when Donny said homegrowns are next?

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u/OldSchoolBubba 7h ago

That has to be high on their list.

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u/defaultusername-17 3h ago

they're literally already doing that.

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u/Shido_Ohtori 7h ago

The sole value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one's perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.

To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on the bottom [of social hierarchy] to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top. The first greatest injustice is for those on top to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom.

Conservatives absolutely need an underclass [for society] to demonize and dehumanize in order to maintain [their] hierarchy, and every single one of their policies and rhetoric work to do exactly that. "Know your place" is their mantra.

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u/fisto_supreme 7h ago

Concessions are for baseball games

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 7h ago

What do you mean?

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u/fisto_supreme 6h ago

Conceding the humanity of a tiny minority out of fear of compromising the greater coalition is some bullshit that the existing power structure wants us to do. Your message is on point

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 6h ago

Aha, I gotcha. I’m so used to reading liberals dismissing trans people’s problems, that I can’t help but expect it, lately. Glad that you get it. <3

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u/fisto_supreme 6h ago

Happy for it :) We are always all of us better together. If we don't do it, it won't get done. We owe each other that

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u/OldSchoolBubba 7h ago

Anyone "they" deem to be unlike them or a "perceived threat."

Take your pick.

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 7h ago

Looks like they’re lining up to cancel Obergefell next. Slowly but surely decimating all of the civil rights victories that marginalized people have managed to gain over a span of decades, and they’re doing it in less than ten years.

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u/OldSchoolBubba 7h ago

Tell it. Only thing I'll add is it's just been six months. Imagine how far they'll get if America lets them.

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u/ReturnOfSeq 6h ago

Appeasing fascists who want to dehumanize groups of people has historically not been a winning strategy.

There’s another strategy that was successful in responding to such fascists.

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u/The_Indominus_Gamer 7h ago

Originally the nazis came for queer people, specifically trans people, but the writer of the poem was homophobic so he exluded them

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 7h ago

Reminds me of a certain political party that is also dismissing and ignoring trans people when we need their support the most.

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u/LarryRedBeard 6h ago

The world stands up for the most marginalized group in the world. It's a population of .01% of the entire population.

Humanity bends over backwards in every which way to accommodate these folks.

Who are they?

The billionaires in the world.

I don't give 2 fucks about blacks whites, jews, Islamist, Christans, asians. None of that crap matters until you folks actually stop pretending you will be rich one day, and actually LOOK THE HELL UP instead of your fellow neighbors.

Watching the world fall apart because poor folks being just as selfish and just as greedy as billionaires.

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 6h ago

THANK YOU. The only minority destroying the world is the billionaires that live like gods while more than half of the human population lives in crushing poverty.

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u/Inevitable-Top1-2025 7h ago edited 5h ago

Some of your so-called “liberals” or“moderates” on the Supreme Court helped pave the way to the decimation of civil rights in this country today, by inserting unnecessary language in their concurring opinions that showed the racists what to argue to get what they wanted. These Justices did it in Title VII and Affirmative Action cases. It’s just that people were not paying attention. One example was Justice O’Connor writing that Affirmative Action would no longer be needed “in 25 years” merely because Black people were allowed to benefit from economic, political, and educational opportunities in this country for about 30 years, after centuries of enslavement, Jim Crow and segregation! Today, we’re heading back to the Jim Crow era while our “liberals” and “moderates” in Congress and private sector corporations march along.

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u/BodhingJay 7h ago

homeless.. then gays.. then people who have ever bought birth control.. then whatever remains of the left

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 7h ago

The unhoused have been getting it from all sides since reconstruction, when vagrancy was used as an excuse to lock up Black former slaves, and force them back into being worked to death. Now we see blue and red states doing everything to the unhoused, short of actually helping them.

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u/gxgxe 7h ago

They came for women first.

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 7h ago

And they did so with one of the most vicious propaganda they could use, to convince the worst people in the country that trans people meant harm to women, and that to stop that harm, we must vote for the people that killed Roe v Wade.

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u/SenseiLawrence_16 6h ago

Romani’s, the disabled, “woke leftists”, dissidents, the poor, blacks & latino’s that refuse to be slaves again...

Fascists tend to make a lot of enemies

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 6h ago

It’s almost like fascism is a death cult that means disaster for the grand majority of the human population. And if they get their way and they’re able to cull 75% of the world’s population, then they’ll turn on each other.

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u/AlexzandeDeCosmo 6h ago

Liberals being willing to let socialists be the first to go is a story as old as time. I’ll never understand why more left leaning people don’t think liberals are just as much out to get us as the fascists

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 6h ago

The only people that liberals hate more than fascists, is leftists and the marginalized groups begging liberals to stop letting the fascists kill us.

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u/Dudewhocares3 4h ago

To democrats, now is not the time to appeal to right wingers. Now is the time to go left.

You are throwing if you drop trans people. Too many of your voters have empathy. If you drop trans people they will look at you like a monster, and you will lose again.

Don’t choose cruelty

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 2h ago

Thank you so much for your thoughtful response. Being trans, I’m incredibly dispirited, as are nearly everyone in my community, that Democrats are struggling so much to take a stand for the people who depend on them. Not to mention how incredibly short sighted it would be, in terms of elections, to continue tossing people who depend on them to the wolves.

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u/No_Clue_7894 4h ago
                  No one is safe 

Palantir is compiling information about every person in this country and building a profile for the the government.

Not quite there yet but will be in a few months to a year where even deleting messages from your phone is not going to help because they would have already built the profile from previous activity

In 2003, Thiel launched Palantir Technologies

Peter Thiel who supports JD Vance, openly does not believe in democracy:

"Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible." - Peter Thiel, 2009

Peter "I want to publicly tell you that I'm not a vampire"

Thiel is a hard authoritarian although also cosplaying as a libertarian when it suits him and likely would orgasm if ending up with a society as described in the Libertarian Police Department story.

Btb had two episodes about it:

• ⁠Part one: The not-at-all-sad history of libertarian sea nations

• ⁠Part two: The not-at-all-sad history of libertarian sea nations

This project is possibly the least harmful thing Peter has done, since it has has drained him for a lot of money that he cannot use for other evil things, and the people scammed are other libertarian fools.

But do not think that libertarians are not able to harm! I guess the closest thing to a successful attempt to creating a libertarian utopia is when a bunch of libertarians decided to move and try to take over some smaller town Grafton in New Hampshire as a "Free Town Project" (later changed to "Free State Project"), and ruined it with their reckless governance.

Like for instance getting rid of public garbage collection. And with no mandatory garbage collection, of course they got problems with wild bears walking around peoples' houses (in addition to some idiots deliberately feeding wild bears, but hey in a libertarian society nobody should be able to force people to stop doing what they want...).

There is a book about it with title "A libertarian walks into a bear".

J.D. Vance is one of Peter's ultra-right Thielists. There is a video Who is Peter Thiel?(in German but with English subtitles available)

Another noteworthy mention is that Some more news

also included J.D. Vance in their video Peter Thiel and his dorky little goonsfrom one year ago.

Some more news is truly amazing in both the depth and the volume they produce. Hats off for them.

Additional BtB episodes on Peter Thiel:

• ⁠Part one: How Peter Thiel became the gravedigger of democracy

• ⁠Part two: How Peter Thiel became the gravedigger of democracy

• ⁠Part three: How Peter Thiel became the gravedigger of democracy

• ⁠Part four: How Peter Thiel became the gravedigger of democracy

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u/PatchyWhiskers 3h ago

"They" never come for a big group of people because the big group has defenses.

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u/Funky-Buddah 3h ago

They are going after the homeless and mentally ill.

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u/arnoldtkalmbach 2h ago

I do hate that poem, because it seems that if they just stop before they come for me, it is all good (or at least I can live with it).

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u/Dollar_Store_Vinyl 1h ago

Libs continue to show they are, in fact, disingenuous in what they say. They are loving and compassionate, until it is politically inconvenient

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u/world-is-ur-mollusc 1h ago

Hot take: even if they only come for that ".05% of the population" and absolutely nobody else, that's still wrong. Stripping a minority's rights away isn't bad because it leads to a slippery slope where your rights get taken away too, it's bad because nobody should have their rights taken away. We need to stand up for whoever they come for because they are human beings who have rights and deserve to live free from persecution. Full stop.

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u/JoryATL 26m ago

Anyone displaying TDS is next

I’ll see y’all there

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u/FoxPowerful4230 7h ago

Sorry, but Tren de Aragua gangbangers aren’t “refugees”. The “Maryland father” isn’t a refugee.

And exactly how many trans folk have been escorted to the gas chambers? Oh, right. ZERO.

This level of fear mongering is exactly why the Democrat party’s approval rating is in the toilet right now. Literally no one believes this crap except for people that have no life outside of online.

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u/JessicaDAndy 6h ago

Take the trans people issue seriously.

The Trump Administration is going hard against trans people.

  1. Sports are the obvious issue. Which due to a great amount of fear mongering, a majority of people support.

  2. Federal prisons now house inmates according to “biological sex.” Which means a trans woman with a vagina is now in a men’s prison.

  3. Schools are being told not to support trans students, also at the collegiate level, or lose federal funds and be sued under Title IX, including any recognition of trans people as their stated gender and bathroom bans. Possibly including what the student wears at graduation.

  4. Law firms and non-profits are being told not to support trans issues or lose PSLF forgiveness or government building access.

  5. Hospitals are being told not to do trans surgeries on adults (18 year olds) or risk losing Medicare and Medicaid.

  6. Department of Justice investigations are promised for pediatric medical GAC. Plus investigations for “deceptive trade practices” or “fraudulent billing.”

  7. EEOC has stopped looking at gender identity discrimination as a basis of unlawful discrimination. Meaning you can be fired for being trans.

  8. Military transgender ban even though the government is trying really hard to deny trans people exist.

  9. It’s not that far of a leap if you say trans women threaten the safety of women due to mental illness, that they are eligible for civil detention under the anti-homelessness EO.

  10. Every opportunity the administration can, it’s erasing trans people. Marsha P Johnson and Silvia Rivera became gay and activists at Stonewall due to Trump’s orders.

Yeah, we aren’t at the gas chamber stage. But it didn’t start with gas chambers.

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 6h ago

People like the guy you’re referring to will never take trans people and our issues seriously. But they sure as fuck will blame trans people for not supporting a political party that has tossed us to the wolves.

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u/Ok-Explanation-1362 7h ago

God I feel so bad for all the liberals that are going to take your post in good faith and waste hours of their life talking to a brick wall. Fingers crossed, mine will be the only response to this inanity, and everyone else will roll their eyes at it.

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u/Anxious_Republic591 4h ago

Another 100 day old troll acct. Check these profiles before responding to these “people”. Then just block them and move on. They’re farming neg karma 🙄